J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 5, 2024 20:08:27 GMT
The real problem is that successive governments have tried to get local authorities to play the role of regional government but with inadequate powers and on hopelessly wrong boundaries. Buckinghamshire as a Unitary Authority is all but useless in terms of providing regional government and far too large to provide local government. Also, that the only option available is merger on existing boundaries. Splitting up and sharing out is not allowed even where it would make more sense, eg split Hambleton down the middle and share between a Yorkshire Dales council and a Yorkshire Moors council. |
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J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 5, 2024 20:14:46 GMT
It was a messy compromise in the unitary-isation process. They took all the district wards a new county divisions pending a full review. No they took all the county divisions as new unitary authority wards. It was something messy. In North Yorkshire they took *groups* of old district wards to form the new divisions, which - while with quite a lot of imbalances - resulted in a broadly sensible number and geography.
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Post by michaelarden on Nov 5, 2024 22:13:23 GMT
No they took all the county divisions as new unitary authority wards. It was something messy. In North Yorkshire they took *groups* of old district wards to form the new divisions, which - while with quite a lot of imbalances - resulted in a broadly sensible number and geography.
May be sensible to you but not for me - it's an appalling mega council with little accountability and vast unrepresentative wards which are going to be worse with the boundary changes. |
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Post by edgbaston on Nov 5, 2024 22:22:05 GMT
The unitary in Bucks is deeply unloved as far as I can see. I'm sure it saves money by having only one set of admin across the county but it's a deeply incoherent area whatever the county boundaries say, and I believe most of the development discussion is around the southern end thinking it should go in the north, and the Aylesbury Vale gang wanting it all in the south, and the Chilterns in the middle keeping both sides apart. About the only thing they agree on is moaning about HS2, and that every Buckinghamshire pensioner will freeze to death this winter. Very difficult for any strategic planning to take place. You might have noticed that MK is looking at being part of a combined authority with Bedfordshire and Northants. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrdvy4ldydoThe fact we'd rather work with Northants than Bucks speaks volumes! MK should seek to annex surrounding territory and expand in its own right as was designed. I would caution you against getting trapped in a tacky regional deal with either county. |
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J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Nov 6, 2024 5:43:56 GMT
It was something messy. In North Yorkshire they took *groups* of old district wards to form the new divisions, which - while with quite a lot of imbalances - resulted in a broadly sensible number and geography. May be sensible to you but not for me - it's an appalling mega council with little accountability and vast unrepresentative wards which are going to be worse with the boundary changes. Oh yes, the council itself is an abomination. It's about six hours by bus from where I am to County Hall. We've gone from 7.5 councillors to 2.
I don't know about the rest of the county - it's too big to hold the whole thing in your mind properly - but we've made a strong argument for a pair of sensible divisions in Whitby. But I know that even with a cursory examination of electorate numbers, it is going to be quite messy in other areas, eg see link. The county is too rural to make it easy to collect together appropriate numbers into blocks in lots of places. |
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Post by tucson on Nov 6, 2024 9:23:49 GMT
Haven’t noticed this reported yet:
Jane McCoid , Lamesley (Gateshead MBC) Lab to Ind
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Post by certain on Nov 6, 2024 9:24:19 GMT
It's six of the "slithy toves", as Jim Cousins used to call them: Nick Kemp, Marion Williams, John Stokel-Walker, David, Margaret & Stevie Wood. All east end councillors. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 6, 2024 13:54:20 GMT
It's six of the "slithy toves", as Jim Cousins used to call them: Nick Kemp, Marion Williams, John Stokel-Walker, David, Margaret & Stevie Wood. All east end councillors. So what is basically behind it - policy, personalities, a mix of both? |
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Post by certain on Nov 6, 2024 14:44:39 GMT
It's six of the "slithy toves", as Jim Cousins used to call them: Nick Kemp, Marion Williams, John Stokel-Walker, David, Margaret & Stevie Wood. All east end councillors. So what is basically behind it - policy, personalities, a mix of both? Personalities. It all seemed to emanate from the rivalry between Nick Brown & Jeremy Beecham. When Nick became an MP, Kevan Jones became leader of the toves. Nick Kemp used to work for Nick Brown, who I hear is still around. |
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YL
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Post by YL on Nov 6, 2024 15:19:49 GMT
I do hope they register "Slithy Toves" as a party name and stand under it in the next Newcastle election.
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Post by batman on Nov 6, 2024 15:41:58 GMT
perhaps opposed on the Conservative side by the Borough Goves?
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cathyc
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Post by cathyc on Nov 6, 2024 15:49:16 GMT
perhaps opposed on the Conservative side by the Borough Goves? "All Mims Davies were the Borough Goves and the mome Raabs outgrabe". |
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Post by carolus on Nov 6, 2024 20:27:27 GMT
Worcestershire, St Georges & St Oswald (2025). Tony Muir, Conservative to Independent.
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Post by aargauer on Nov 7, 2024 20:56:06 GMT
It's six of the "slithy toves", as Jim Cousins used to call them: Nick Kemp, Marion Williams, John Stokel-Walker, David, Margaret & Stevie Wood. All east end councillors. I didn't realise the Stokel-Walkers are a political family. I know Chris (a reasonably well known journalist these days) from school. |
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Post by carolus on Nov 8, 2024 14:31:12 GMT
Aberdeen, Kincorth/Nigg/Cove (2027). Alex Nicoll, SNP to Independent.
Aberdeenshire, Mearns (2027). Laurie Carnie, Independent (elected as Conservative) to Reform UK.
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Post by notabrummie on Nov 8, 2024 19:24:33 GMT
Aberdeen, Kincorth/Nigg/Cove (2027). Alex Nicoll, SNP to Independent. Aberdeenshire, Mearns (2027). Laurie Carnie, Independent (elected as Conservative) to Reform UK.
Aberdeenshire Mearns was reported on the 24th October. |
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Post by froome on Nov 9, 2024 22:22:02 GMT
I do hope they register "Slithy Toves" as a party name and stand under it in the next Newcastle election. Slithy Toves against Idle Toads would be good. |
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Post by carolus on Nov 11, 2024 18:51:02 GMT
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Post by carolus on Nov 12, 2024 13:16:00 GMT
Cotswold, Tetbury with Upton (2027). Chris Twells, Liberal (elected as Liberal Democrat) to Independent.
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cathyc
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Post by cathyc on Nov 12, 2024 13:54:03 GMT
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