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Post by matureleft on Apr 12, 2024 10:20:10 GMT
I voted for Lisa Nandy 1, Starmer 2. Snap Yup. Me too. Not for the first time (by any means!) I wasn’t that inspired by the choice, but that’s how I voted.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 12, 2024 10:34:18 GMT
Yup. Me too. Not for the first time (by any means!) I wasn’t that inspired by the choice, but that’s how I voted. I voted for Long-Bailey. That's the only choice for me, even though she wasn't keen - I suppose that neither weren't great. However I knew I couldn't vote for Starmer hence I resigned - I would end up angry and frustrated.
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Post by matureleft on Apr 12, 2024 10:51:02 GMT
Yup. Me too. Not for the first time (by any means!) I wasn’t that inspired by the choice, but that’s how I voted. I voted for Long-Bailey. That's the only choice for me, even though she wasn't keen - I suppose that neither weren't great. However I knew I couldn't vote for Starmer hence I resigned - I would end up angry and frustrated. One of our differences, which we’ve explored before, is that I’m not a ‘leader’ person. Having a leader is a necessity and the person holding that position needs practical skills, but their personal politics within the party are of less interest to me. I remained a member through the Corbyn era even though I thought him both incompetent and mistaken. I can’t say that I’ve been a fan of any of the leaders in my membership - stretching back to Wilson - except John Smith. There have been a few near leaders in that period - Healey was certainly one - who would have got a tick from me.
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Post by carolus on Apr 12, 2024 11:57:13 GMT
Oxfordshire, Henley-on-Thames (2025). Stefan Gawrysiak, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Henley Residents Group, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire).
Oxfordshire, Iffley Fields & St Mary's (2025). Damian Haywood, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Labour, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire).
Oxfordshire, Hendreds & Harwell (2025). Sally Povolotsky, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Liberal Democrat, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire).
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 12, 2024 13:19:44 GMT
Yup. Me too. Not for the first time (by any means!) I wasn’t that inspired by the choice, but that’s how I voted. I voted Starmer 1 RLB 2 - wasn't that impressed by Nandy's campaign, though she has grown on me since. Also for Rayner as deputy, making it my first vote for the winners in a leadership/deputy election since I went for Blair/Prescott in 1994.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Apr 13, 2024 10:14:41 GMT
Oxfordshire, Henley-on-Thames (2025). Stefan Gawrysiak, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Henley Residents Group, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire). Oxfordshire, Iffley Fields & St Mary's (2025). Damian Haywood, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Labour, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire). Oxfordshire, Hendreds & Harwell (2025). Sally Povolotsky, Independent (non-grouped), elected as Liberal Democrat, to Independent (The Independent Voice of Oxfordshire). I assume this is a new Oxon independent grouping, rather than Cllr Gawrysiak leaving HRG (he's very well known in the town and he's been involved in HRG for decades).
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Post by Rutlander on Apr 13, 2024 10:48:15 GMT
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Post by mattbewilson on Apr 13, 2024 11:53:49 GMT
I voted for Long-Bailey. That's the only choice for me, even though she wasn't keen - I suppose that neither weren't great. However I knew I couldn't vote for Starmer hence I resigned - I would end up angry and frustrated. One of our differences, which we’ve explored before, is that I’m not a ‘leader’ person. Having a leader is a necessity and the person holding that position needs practical skills, but their personal politics within the party are of less interest to me. I remained a member through the Corbyn era even though I thought him both incompetent and mistaken. I can’t say that I’ve been a fan of any of the leaders in my membership - stretching back to Wilson - except John Smith. There have been a few near leaders in that period - Healey was certainly one - who would have got a tick from me. that seems an unfair comment given Mike voted for Blair
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Post by mattbewilson on Apr 13, 2024 11:54:22 GMT
oh you didn't vote in the leadership election? I voted for Lisa Nandy 1, Starmer 2. oh so you did back soft corbynism
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 13, 2024 12:03:48 GMT
I voted for Lisa Nandy 1, Starmer 2. oh so you did back soft corbynism Lisa Nandy resigned from the Shadow Cabinet in 2016 and didn't return; she has said that the Labour Party would have 'deserved to die' if it had stuck with Corbynism. So I don't think the premise of your question is correct.
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Post by mattbewilson on Apr 13, 2024 12:12:17 GMT
oh so you did back soft corbynism Lisa Nandy resigned from the Shadow Cabinet in 2016 and didn't return; she has said that the Labour Party would have 'deserved to die' if it had stuck with Corbynism. So I don't think the premise of your question is correct. I assumed we were talking about their campaign program
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Post by matureleft on Apr 13, 2024 12:47:38 GMT
One of our differences, which we’ve explored before, is that I’m not a ‘leader’ person. Having a leader is a necessity and the person holding that position needs practical skills, but their personal politics within the party are of less interest to me. I remained a member through the Corbyn era even though I thought him both incompetent and mistaken. I can’t say that I’ve been a fan of any of the leaders in my membership - stretching back to Wilson - except John Smith. There have been a few near leaders in that period - Healey was certainly one - who would have got a tick from me. that seems an unfair comment given Mike voted for Blair Well these things are individual and Mike’s past active Blairism has been tilled over. I can’t recall how I voted in 1994 - it was certainly another election where I wasn’t greatly inspired but I’d imagine I made the practical choice - which candidate would most assist a Labour win, and I’d guess that I’d have favoured Blair on those grounds. But I don’t think anyone who knew me thought me a Blairite and I was (correctly) mistrusted by true believers.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 13, 2024 12:54:08 GMT
Lisa Nandy resigned from the Shadow Cabinet in 2016 and didn't return; she has said that the Labour Party would have 'deserved to die' if it had stuck with Corbynism. So I don't think the premise of your question is correct. I assumed we were talking about their campaign program I've also supported Ken Livingstone in the internal selections for Mayoral candidate, each time he ran.
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Post by batman on Apr 13, 2024 16:48:34 GMT
that seems an unfair comment given Mike voted for Blair Well these things are individual and Mike’s past active Blairism has been tilled over. I can’t recall how I voted in 1994 - it was certainly another election where I wasn’t greatly inspired but I’d imagine I made the practical choice - which candidate would most assist a Labour win, and I’d guess that I’d have favoured Blair on those grounds. But I don’t think anyone who knew me thought me a Blairite and I was (correctly) mistrusted by true believers. I remember very well. I didn't want to vote for Blair, though if it had been close I might have considered it. It was obvious that Blair would win whoever I voted for. I intended to vote for Prescott at first, but found his positions woolly & ended up voting for Margaret Beckett. The only time I have ever voted for BOTH successful candidates in a Labour Party leadership election was 2020. I didn't vote for Tom Watson but preferred Angela Eagle. Apart from the last two, the only successful candidate for the Party leadership I have given my first preference vote to was John Smith in 1992.
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Post by mattbewilson on Apr 13, 2024 16:56:49 GMT
Well these things are individual and Mike’s past active Blairism has been tilled over. I can’t recall how I voted in 1994 - it was certainly another election where I wasn’t greatly inspired but I’d imagine I made the practical choice - which candidate would most assist a Labour win, and I’d guess that I’d have favoured Blair on those grounds. But I don’t think anyone who knew me thought me a Blairite and I was (correctly) mistrusted by true believers. I remember very well. I didn't want to vote for Blair, though if it had been close I might have considered it. It was obvious that Blair would win whoever I voted for. I intended to vote for Prescott at first, but found his positions woolly & ended up voting for Margaret Beckett. The only time I have ever voted for BOTH successful candidates in a Labour Party leadership election was 2020. I didn't vote for Tom Watson but preferred Angela Eagle. Apart from the last two, the only successful candidate for the Party leadership I have given my first preference vote to was John Smith in 1992. how funny i voted for Angela Eagle too.
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Post by john07 on Apr 14, 2024 23:30:27 GMT
I voted for Ed Miliband when he stood and was elected.
I voted for Yvette Cooper against Corbyn.
I then voted for Owen Smith although I now can’t recall who he was or what he stood for.
I certainly did vote for Keir Starmer.
As for Deputy Leaders I am struggling to recall who I voted for.
I have vague recollections of voting for Caroline Flint and later for Angela Rayner.
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Post by johnloony on Apr 15, 2024 2:10:23 GMT
I then voted for Owen Smith although I now can’t recall who he was or what he stood for. The main part of his policy platform was not being Jeremy Corbyn
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Post by batman on Apr 15, 2024 8:38:58 GMT
I then voted for Owen Smith although I now can’t recall who he was or what he stood for. The main part of his policy platform was not being Jeremy Corbyn that and ice cream
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 15, 2024 8:50:36 GMT
Didn't he also boast about being good in bed or similar?
After an OK start, it developed into a real car crash.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Apr 18, 2024 19:38:45 GMT
Peter Murrell has resigned from the SNP after being charged with embezzlement.
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