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Post by carlton43 on Nov 30, 2022 16:05:58 GMT
1964 Conservative 1966 Conservative 1970 Conservative 1974a Conservative 1974b Conservative 1979 Conservative 1983 Conservative 1987 Conservative 1992 Conservative You voted for the party under the lily-livered Alec Douglas-Hume, Edward Heath (four times), and John Major? Carlton... you're naught but a big softy, post-war consensus, Europhilic Wet at heart! You know how to hurt a man when he is down and already confessed his sins!
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Post by BossMan on Nov 30, 2022 16:46:24 GMT
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Post by neilm on Nov 30, 2022 18:09:41 GMT
You voted for the party under the lily-livered Alec Douglas-Hume, Edward Heath (four times), and John Major? Carlton... you're naught but a big softy, post-war consensus, Europhilic Wet at heart! Then Tony Blair. Then Alec Salmond Salmond was clearly an absolute stand out in his time. I would have had no problem voting for him. He's lost the plot a bit now, mind.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Nov 30, 2022 18:30:47 GMT
You voted for the party under the lily-livered Alec Douglas-Hume, Edward Heath (four times), and John Major? Carlton... you're naught but a big softy, post-war consensus, Europhilic Wet at heart! You know how to hurt a man when he is down and already confessed his sins! As you said you became less tribal and less loyal!
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Nov 30, 2022 19:23:43 GMT
You voted for the party under the lily-livered Alec Douglas-Hume, Edward Heath (four times), and John Major? Carlton... you're naught but a big softy, post-war consensus, Europhilic Wet at heart! Then Tony Blair. Then Alec Salmond I keep reading on here that we vote for parties not leaders, and now the argument is we don't. I'm confuddled.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 30, 2022 20:45:39 GMT
Then Tony Blair. Then Alec Salmond Your Honour, the prosecution rests. But in my stout and descive defence, I can claim, unlike you, that at least I have not supported Truss!
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Post by finsobruce on Nov 30, 2022 20:49:24 GMT
Your Honour, the prosecution rests. But in my stout and descive defence, I can claim, unlike you, that at least I have not supported Truss! I think that theres trumps dealer.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 30, 2022 20:50:16 GMT
Your Honour, the prosecution rests. But not Cameron, probably the second best tory post war PM . Compared to Sunak and Starmer he looks a veritable giant. You really, really do not understand my politics at all, do you? I am a head-banger total Brexit Radical Reactionary! Cameron! Of course not. He was a Remainer and a marked social liberal.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 30, 2022 20:54:20 GMT
Compared to the semi midget Sunak yes The same height or taller than Lloyd George, Churchill, Thatcher, Macron, Scholz, Zelensky, Modi, Putin, Lula... * (* If the internet is correct) So, a shortarse then?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Nov 30, 2022 21:05:34 GMT
But not Cameron, probably the second best tory post war PM . Compared to Sunak and Starmer he looks a veritable giant. You really, really do not understand my politics at all, do you? I am a head-banger total Brexit Radical Reactionary! Cameron! Of course not. He was a Remainer and a marked social liberal. Quoted to like again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 21:39:25 GMT
Your Honour, the prosecution rests. But in my stout and descive defence, I can claim, unlike you, that at least I have not supported Truss! I supported Truss as leader and PM, as a good and loyal citizen of this United Kingdom. 😉 (But I voted for Sunak in the leadership contest)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 21:40:13 GMT
The same height or taller than Lloyd George, Churchill, Thatcher, Macron, Scholz, Zelensky, Modi, Putin, Lula... * (* If the internet is correct) So, a shortarse then? Shortarse, yes. Midget, no.
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 1, 2022 0:07:10 GMT
The only people who are "obsessed" with "all things trans" are anti-trans people who have worked themselves up into a frenzy based on a lot of fear and little evidence I am rather pro-trans. Indeed, it's that what's led me to being labelled "woke". However, you're wrong. There are things which are deeply concerning, not least the double think which is now enforced upon us against our will.
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Post by aargauer on Dec 1, 2022 11:03:57 GMT
The only people who are "obsessed" with "all things trans" are anti-trans people who have worked themselves up into a frenzy based on a lot of fear and little evidence I am rather pro-trans. Indeed, it's that what's led me to being labelled "woke". However, you're wrong. There are things which are deeply concerning, not least the double think which is now enforced upon us against our will. I've also been labelled as woke - I don't "believe" in trans being an actual thing, although I don't want to get in the way of their cosplay. Live and let live.
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Post by carolus on Dec 3, 2022 22:20:56 GMT
Epping Forest, Grange Hill (2023). Sheree Rackham, Conservative to Independent. Warwick, Bishop's Tachbrook. David Norris, Conservative to Independent.
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Post by heslingtonian on Dec 4, 2022 16:13:58 GMT
Epping Forest, Grange Hill (2023). Sheree Rackham, Conservative to Independent. Warwick, Bishop's Tachbrook. David Norris, Conservative to Independent. Sheree Rackham was a councillor I think in Waltham Forest previously. Is this a deselection issue?
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Post by neilm on Dec 5, 2022 10:24:22 GMT
Epping Forest, Grange Hill (2023). Sheree Rackham, Conservative to Independent. Warwick, Bishop's Tachbrook. David Norris, Conservative to Independent. Sheree Rackham was a councillor I think in Waltham Forest previously. Is this a deselection issue? london(ex)tory might know, I think she was the candidate in his ward this year.
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Post by andrewp on Dec 7, 2022 18:06:21 GMT
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Post by neilm on Dec 8, 2022 15:30:54 GMT
Stephen Hulme, Plymouth, Con to Ind.
This puts the council on 24 C, 24 L, 2 Green, 2 Ind and 3 Ind group.
There are two by elections looming as the councillors who moved to Gloucester have resigned. Both seats are, on paper, Con holds.
Hulme has left over budget decisions (specifically rubble and green waste charges) and the planned changes to the layout of, and specifically trees on, Armada Way which have gone down like a bucket of cold sick locally. He had previously left the group but rejoined after the election last year to give the Conservatives a majority.
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Post by carolus on Dec 8, 2022 18:21:38 GMT
Bury, Tottington (2023). Iain Gartside, Conservative to Independent.
Rotherham, Anston & Woodsetts. Tracey Wilson, Conservative to Independent.
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