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Post by independentukip on Feb 20, 2013 22:32:39 GMT
find it strange the press release did not state she was a labour member. Embarrassment probably. |
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Post by stepney on Feb 20, 2013 22:54:24 GMT
find it strange the press release did not state she was a labour member. But there again a child probably wrote itSomeone childish and intellectually backward writing a load of old drivel - is this something you've any experience of? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 22:11:39 GMT
werid times we live in, Maria anderssan Ukip mep defects to Tory over Farage dictator style
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Post by David Boothroyd on Feb 22, 2013 23:12:10 GMT
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 23, 2013 0:57:45 GMT
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 24, 2013 11:59:14 GMT
I am not sure of this meets the criteria of notable but Richard Lowe, formerly the UKIP PPC for City of Chester, and before that a Conservative councillor, has joined the Lib Dems.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 24, 2013 18:39:10 GMT
If he can sit comfortably in the Eurofanatic Lib Dems, then what was he ever doing in UKIP? Well shot of him
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Post by john07 on Feb 24, 2013 19:37:00 GMT
If he can sit comfortably in the Eurofanatic Lib Dems, then what was he ever doing in UKIP? Well shot of him Well gwynthegriff seems to manage! |
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Post by erlend on Feb 24, 2013 19:48:26 GMT
I would describe Gwyn as cautiously sceptical on European issues.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 24, 2013 20:16:58 GMT
I would describe Gwyn as cautiously sceptical on European issues. I rather think we have never had the opportunity to discuss the EU Erlend?  [And my former council colleagues - of all demoninations - would be amused by the thought of my being described as cautious on anything] |
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Post by erlend on Feb 24, 2013 20:21:18 GMT
Probably! It's not a subject that interests me. But on here you have neither come out as a Europhobe fanatic or as Andrew Duff.
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 24, 2013 20:29:39 GMT
If he can sit comfortably in the Eurofanatic Lib Dems, then what was he ever doing in UKIP? Well shot of him He was under the mistaken impression that UKIP is a party for libertarians. But it was a grating point between him and his kipper association that he didn't regard laving the EU as the number 1 political priority. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 24, 2013 20:40:53 GMT
Probably! It's not a subject that interests me. But on here you have neither come out as a Europhobe fanatic or as Andrew Duff. I'm an old-style Liberal - I don't do fanaticism. Even on electoral reform!  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 24, 2013 21:22:18 GMT
If he can sit comfortably in the Eurofanatic Lib Dems, then what was he ever doing in UKIP? Well shot of him He was under the mistaken impression that UKIP is a party for libertarians. But it was a grating point between him and his kipper association that he didn't regard laving the EU as the number 1 political priority. He's even more mistaken then if he thinks the Lib Dems are a party for libertarians |
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 25, 2013 0:12:18 GMT
He was under the mistaken impression that UKIP is a party for libertarians. But it was a grating point between him and his kipper association that he didn't regard laving the EU as the number 1 political priority. He's even more mistaken then if he thinks the Lib Dems are a party for libertarians To be fair to Richard he is well aware of the flaws of the Lib Dems but he has decided that social liberalism is more important to him than economic liberalism or EU withdrawal. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 25, 2013 16:40:21 GMT
There are certainly Labour euro-sceptics, AC - including on this board |
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Post by Richard Allen on Feb 25, 2013 16:45:21 GMT
There are certainly Labour euro-sceptics, AC - including on this board Yep, there is a good hardcore of around 15-20 Labour MPs who are pretty Euro-sceptic. Ian Davidson (Glasgow South West) is one of the more vocal of them. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 25, 2013 16:59:48 GMT
Yes, I was at a People's Pledge event where a couple of Labour MPs suggested that there were far more than that, Richard. They said that given the opportunity of sticking their heads above the parapet, they would. They also said....one of them was Kate Hoey....that if you say anything Euro-sceptic as a Labour MP, you are looked upon as being borderline insane. So many simply stay quiet. That is not why people look upon Kate Hoey as borderline insane. I'm honestly not sure what proportion of activists are Eurosceptics, because so few of us actually care about it to any significant degree. Even in Cambridge, which is a lot less Eurosceptic than most towns and where the CLP loves a long and pointless argument, there's never any enthusiasm for a debate on Europe. |
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Post by john07 on Feb 25, 2013 17:16:49 GMT
That is not why people look upon Kate Hoey as borderline insane. Borderline insane? She is an ex Trotskyist who chairs a Tory front organization the Countryside Alliance. I'm honestly not sure what proportion of activists are Eurosceptics, because so few of us actually care about it to any significant degree. Even in Cambridge, which is a lot less Eurosceptic than most towns and where the CLP loves a long and pointless argument, there's never any enthusiasm for a debate on Europe. The departure of the Peter Shore generation removed most of the ideologically anti-EU elements within Labour. Equally the demise of the Social Democratic revisionists took away the bulk of the hard line EU enthusiasts. After 40 years of membership most accept it without much enthusiasm or antipathy. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 25, 2013 17:31:58 GMT
That is not why people look upon Kate Hoey as borderline insane. Borderline insane? She is an ex Trotskyist who chairs a Tory front organization the Countryside Alliance. I've got a lot of time for the Countryside Alliance's policies on things like rural housing. If they actually campaigned on those, rather than just using them as a fig leaf to pretend they aren't all about hunting, they'd be a really interesting pressure group. |
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