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Post by finsobruce on Sept 7, 2018 5:15:23 GMT
I hope everyone's got the day off tomorrow. yes but im going on holiday Have a nice break. |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 7, 2018 6:00:33 GMT
Denton Holme
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Labour 647
Conservative 254
Green 78
UKIP 57
Cumbria County Council
Labour 625
Conservative 292
Green 94
UKIP 46
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 8:44:10 GMT
Conservatives - 2309 Green – 257 SNP – 1741 Lib Dems – 566 Alastair Macintyre – Independent – 40 Calum Paul – Scottish Libertarian – 13 Labour - 744 The Gentrification of Fife! Excellent! A kick in the teeth for the offence police as well. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 7, 2018 8:59:44 GMT
FIFE Inverkeithing and Dalgety Bay COLEMAN, Dave (Conservative) 2,309 HANVEY, Neale (SNP) 1,741 POLLOCK, Billy (Labour) 744 HAWTHORNE, Callum John (Liberal Democrat) 566 COLLINS, Peter (Independent) 521 HALL, Mags (Green) 257 MACINTYRE, Alastair Amundsen (Independent) 40 PAUL, Calum (Scottish Libertarian Party) 13 In percentage terms for 1st preferences this gives:
Con 37.3%
SNP 28.1% Lab 12.0% LD 9.1% Ind (Collins) 8.4% Green 4.1%
Ind (MacIntyre) 0.6% Libertarian 0.2%
Figures have been rounded to nearest decimal place.
Do we know how many stages it took for the Tories to win? Fife council's website is singularly unhelpful here. I assume it must have been at least four stages as the trailing candidates were eliminated with their smaller votes. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 7, 2018 10:31:58 GMT
Britain Elects are being a little slow on the Carlisle results, so I think these are correct: Denton Holme (Carlisle City Council): Lab 62.5% (+1.7) Con 24.5% (-3.6) Grn 7.5% (-3.6) UKIP 5.5% (+5.5) Lab HOLD. Denton Holme (Cumbria CC): Lab 59.1% (-0.9) Con 27.6% (+0.6) Grn 8.9% (+1.9) UKIP 4.4% (-1.6) Lab HOLD.
I don't think the ward boundaries are identical for the two councils, which may account for some of the variances.
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Post by andrewp on Sept 7, 2018 10:35:02 GMT
Britain Elects are being a little slow on the Carlisle results, so I think these are correct: Denton Holme (Carlisle City Council): Lab 62.5% (+1.7) Con 24.5% (-3.6) Grn 7.5% (-3.6) UKIP 5.5% (+5.5) Lab HOLD. Denton Holme (Cumbria CC): Lab 59.1% (-0.9) Con 27.6% (+0.6) Grn 8.9% (+1.9) UKIP 4.4% (-1.6) Lab HOLD.
I don't think the ward boundaries are identical for the two councils, which may account for some of the variances.
Yes those are correct as per Carlisle City Council and Cumbria County Councils websites. The ward boundaries are very slightly different. I also think the candidates ‘ may’ have accounted for the slight difference.... |
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Post by wallington on Sept 7, 2018 10:52:26 GMT
TAMESIDE Ashton Waterloo HOLLINSHEAD, Pauline (Labour) 889 HUNTBACH, Lee Alan (Green) 448 COSTELLO, Therese Jane (Conservative) 357 I don't know this part of the world at all, but it seems like a pretty good result for the Greens. Although the low turnout and lack of other 3rd party candidates would have helped. The Greens seems to be doing ok in local elections around here, pretty good results in target wards at the 2018 local elections |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 7, 2018 11:15:35 GMT
I also think the candidates ‘ may’ have accounted for the slight difference.... Maybe you can elaborate here? (though I note that Labour's Cumbria CC candidate didn't seen to have a Twitter account, which is fairly unusual these days) |
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Post by andrewp on Sept 7, 2018 11:28:22 GMT
I also think the candidates ‘ may’ have accounted for the slight difference.... Maybe you can elaborate here? (though I note that Labour's Cumbria CC candidate didn't seen to have a Twitter account, which is fairly unusual these days) Labours Cc candidate lived some way away in a village near Penrith according to Andrew Teales preview. Their City council candidate was more local. The Conservatives had an Asian candidate for the City Council. I am 500 miles from Carlisle and have no idea whether that would make a difference? |
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Post by tonygreaves on Sept 7, 2018 12:21:20 GMT
The Fife result is hardly a massive triumph for the Tories. In AV by-elections for seats won under multi-seat STV, there will always be some like this one. Not good for Labour though.
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 7, 2018 12:40:53 GMT
The Fife result is hardly a massive triumph for the Tories. In AV by-elections for seats won under multi-seat STV, there will always be some like this one. Not good for Labour though. And an ok showing for the Lib Dems. They were never going to be in contention but that kind of result could put them in with at least a shout at the 4th seat in an all out election battling with Labour the second Nat and possibly an indy. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 7, 2018 12:44:19 GMT
In percentage terms for 1st preferences this gives:
Con 37.3%
SNP 28.1% Lab 12.0% LD 9.1% Ind (Collins) 8.4% Green 4.1%
Ind (MacIntyre) 0.6% Libertarian 0.2%
Figures have been rounded to nearest decimal place.
Do we know how many stages it took for the Tories to win? Fife council's website is singularly unhelpful here. I assume it must have been at least four stages as the trailing candidates were eliminated with their smaller votes. Full results will be published eventually although maybe not till next week. It'll either be the 7th or 8th stage they were elected, but I'd guess they were still short of quota when the SNP were eliminated. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 7, 2018 13:04:33 GMT
The Fife result is hardly a massive triumph for the Tories. In AV by-elections for seats won under multi-seat STV, there will always be some like this one. Not good for Labour though. Our local Fife resident (jimboo) did say when this contest was called that the local council wasn't that popular and this could affect the Labour/SNP showing. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Sept 7, 2018 13:13:05 GMT
The Fife result is hardly a massive triumph for the Tories. In AV by-elections for seats won under multi-seat STV, there will always be some like this one. Not good for Labour though. And an ok showing for the Lib Dems. They were never going to be in contention but that kind of result could put them in with at least a shout at the 4th seat in an all out election battling with Labour the second Nat and possibly an indy. That might work - the LDs seem to have got more 2nd and 3rd prefs than anyone else. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 7, 2018 13:28:47 GMT
| Con | 2309 | 2312 | 2316 | 2330 | 2455 | 2615 | 2839 | 3244 | | SNP | 1741 | 1741 | 1744 | 1840 | 1950 | 2076 | 2327 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 14:17:18 GMT
The Fife result is hardly a massive triumph for the Tories. In AV by-elections for seats won under multi-seat STV, there will always be some like this one. Not good for Labour though. We increased our vote share and gained a seat in a campaign where opponents had attempted to discredit our candidate over (frankly hilarious) remarks made years ago. I call that a triumph. |
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 7, 2018 15:00:43 GMT
The Labour vote in that part of Fife really was abysmal - remembering that pic upthread of Pollock out door knocking with the help of G Brown, is that the explanation?
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 7, 2018 15:04:30 GMT
The Labour vote in that part of Fife really was abysmal - remembering that pic upthread of Pollock out door knocking with the help of G Brown, is that the explanation? According to Andrew’s Preview there seems to be some very major demographic changes that have “gentrified” the area which has benefited the Conservatives to everybody else’s detriment. |
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