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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 30, 2012 11:02:40 GMT
I have just watched the declaration on the recording I made from Sky News and shall I tell you what it reminded me of? (Slide to 6' 45" for Bethnal Green declaration) Does he believe that every single election registration office in the country is out to stop his election? No idea but he's not exactly stood in typical constituencies. However to be blunt there are accusations of irregularities all round and often the real complaint is that some were spotted more than others. I hope if some good comes out of this the political classes and the Labour Party especially get a wake up call about the way politics has been done in certain inner cities and we can get the cross party consensus to move things forward.
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 30, 2012 11:05:41 GMT
True, but without meaning to tar UKIP with the same brush - they were probably helped by the absence of the BNP this time and I imagine their vote was the most immune to being squeezed by Respect.
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Post by stepney on Mar 30, 2012 11:30:43 GMT
I'm neutral. It's always good to see Labour reminded that taking people for granted is never a good thing (especially those who are not Christian, who Labour always took for granted in Preston until the Socialist Alliance and, yes, Respect, reminded them how that often works out badly in the end) I had wanted to keep quiet on this one but no, dok, for once it's not good to see Labour getting a humbling. Perhaps you might come live down here and grow up a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2012 15:42:28 GMT
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Post by thetop on Mar 30, 2012 19:13:48 GMT
I may be the only one on here, but it doesn't happen very often that I'm chuffed with a by-election result. Galloway's not our man (by any means) but this is a stunning victory against the three wings of the party of austerity and war. Not at all: I too am quite happy of another anti-austerity MP and a symbolic two fingers to status quo/TINA that'd arisen, without being a fan of Galloway's.
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 30, 2012 19:16:14 GMT
Because opposition to austerity is clearly why he won.
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Post by iainbhx on Mar 30, 2012 19:23:53 GMT
Because opposition to austerity is clearly why he won. I can't find a single mention of it in his rather strange letter to a specific group of voters. Welcome back, btw, Al.
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Post by thetop on Mar 30, 2012 19:25:58 GMT
Well I never argued that: I was saying his anti-austerity views is where my happiness at the result lies.
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Post by Philip Davies on Mar 30, 2012 19:48:03 GMT
I wonder how much of a factor the war in Afghanistan had on this by-election? Particularly the recent Kandahar massacre, only a few weeks ago. Also, Pakistan is next door to Afghanistan and surely life there has been largely effected over the past decade and it goes without saying this would have be well known amongst a large part of Bradford West's electorate.
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Post by Pimpernal on Mar 30, 2012 20:15:08 GMT
I may be the only one on here, but it doesn't happen very often that I'm chuffed with a by-election result. No 'may' about it, you are. No he isn't... If UKIP couldn't win, a victory for someone outside the 3-headed hydra that poses as 'choice' in the current political establishment is the next best thing... as long as it isn't the odious BNP or one of their ilk. Like him or loathe him, Galloway is at least not party of the cosy establishment, and this result is a lot more meaningful that if yet another careerist clone MP had been elected.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2012 20:20:35 GMT
Like him or loathe him, Galloway is at least not party of the cosy establishment, and this result is a lot more meaningful that if yet another careerist clone MP had been elected. he is as a careerist politican you will ever find. He left Bethnal because he knew Ali would thrash him, tried to find another to win and no chance. Then lucky for him a perfect seat fell into play and off he went playing the race card. lets not make him out to be some kind of hero eh ? this was the guy who called for British soliders to be killed
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Post by A Brown on Mar 30, 2012 20:26:01 GMT
He didn't even attend the Poplar declaration.
The man is a stooge of Iran (and yes I thought Livingstone's work for PressTV was grossly inappropriate as well).
How long until he gets thrown out of the HoC chamber anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2012 20:33:58 GMT
He didn't even attend the Poplar declaration. The man is a stooge of Iran (and yes I thought Livingstone's work for PressTV was grossly inappropriate as well). How long until he gets thrown out of the HoC chamber anyway? if he ever bothers to turn up
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Post by Pimpernal on Mar 30, 2012 20:42:01 GMT
he is as a careerist politican you will ever find. He left Bethnal because he knew Ali would thrash him, tried to find another to win and no chance. No - he always said he would be a one-term MP for Bethnal - I know that it is hard for some people to believe politicians who keep their word, especially when they are in a party full of them that don't. but don't try to penalise him for sticking to his word hey? this was the guy who called for British soliders to be killed And did your party vote for war in Afghanisatn and Iraq expecting that British soldiers would not be killed? I think if you actually look at what he said, he never called for British soldiers to be killed at all - and today he called for no more British soldiers to be killed in these pointless wars. Calls which the other parties still prevaricate about and delay...
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 30, 2012 21:54:27 GMT
he is as a careerist politican you will ever find. He left Bethnal because he knew Ali would thrash him, tried to find another to win and no chance. No - he always said he would be a one-term MP for Bethnal - I know that it is hard for some people to believe politicians who keep their word, especially when they are in a party full of them that don't. but don't try to penalise him for sticking to his word hey? He didn't keep all his word. He presented himself again to some of the same voters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2012 21:59:24 GMT
Did we get the turnout figures ward by ward ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2012 7:21:40 GMT
Why would we?
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Post by marksenior on Mar 31, 2012 7:51:02 GMT
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Post by Crimson King on Mar 31, 2012 8:09:24 GMT
We probably did get that officially or unoficially during the verification stage, and it will probably be on our agents computer somwhere. It may be one of those things it's technically illegal to disclose but I may be able to give at least an indication when I have it myself. BTW Galloway is reported as saying he won in every ward in Bradford West - including Thornton and Clayton, which if true (and it probably is or somone would have said otherwise by now) means I am wrong and Pete Whitehead is right in the discussion up thread
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 31, 2012 8:25:23 GMT
George Galloway tweeting this morning: "Welcome to the 6000 new followers. I will try to live up to your expectations. Shattered but happy after the Blackburn triumph."
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