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Post by manchesterman on Jun 30, 2024 9:53:39 GMT
To answer my own question, the lowest I can find, since the formation of Labour at least, was 1918 when the Tory/Labour vote combined share was 59.2%
That record may be in jeopardy this year!
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Post by holderness on Jun 30, 2024 10:54:11 GMT
Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (25-27 June 2024) Con: 20% (+2 from 24-25 June) Lab: 37% (+1) Reform UK: 17% (=) Lib Dem: 13% (-2) Green: 7% (-1) SNP: 3% (=) A 3 per cent lead for the Conservatives over Reform. I now believe the distribution of the Reform vote will roughly match that of UKIP in the 2015 general election. Over 20 per cent of seats are in London (75) and Scotland (57). However bad the Conservative result, it is still likely they will be at least 10 points ahead of Reform in both. A further 91 seats are in the South East, where the Tories are at least competitive in many seats and likely to finish ahead of Reform. I still think the gap between the Conservative and Reform vote will be quite a bit more than 3 per cent, but -if it is accurate- such a slender lead across Great Britain as a whole would imply that Reform could finish ahead of the Tories in Wales and the other English regions and possibly in the majority of seats. A Labour victory might be a foregone conclusion, but this is still a fascinating election to observe.
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 1, 2024 14:00:11 GMT
YouGov has attempted to measure tactical voting for the GE. Not totally convinced by these figures esp if the electoral landscape is radically different after Thursday. Anyway Labour are the gainers and the Greens losers:-
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Post by bigfatron on Jul 1, 2024 14:30:18 GMT
Labour are the greatest beneficiaries of tactical voting? That will give Graham a bit of a shock…
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batman
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Post by batman on Jul 1, 2024 14:44:30 GMT
nothing shocks graham. He plods on regardless no matter what facts are presented to him.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 2, 2024 18:15:31 GMT
YouGov's final MRP coming tomorrow at 5 pm
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 2, 2024 23:01:26 GMT
Feels almost pointless doing an MRP this close to the election, beyond satisfying mild curiosity and potentially making YouGov look foolish the day after.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 2, 2024 23:36:03 GMT
This is the only MRP that interests me - the others, not so much.
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 2, 2024 23:37:50 GMT
Admittedly the YouGov MRPs are the only ones that seem to have been even remotely plausible. I recall they were in 2019.
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Post by hullenedge on Jul 3, 2024 16:01:30 GMT
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Post by cogload on Jul 3, 2024 16:06:33 GMT
Well, that would set the cat amongst the pigeons. 50k sample.
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Post by Jack on Jul 3, 2024 16:15:46 GMT
My constituency has Conservatives going from first down to third behind Reform.
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Post by iain on Jul 3, 2024 16:16:42 GMT
I wish ... but I don't think so.
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 3, 2024 16:25:23 GMT
yes, a bit of expectation management needed I think
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jul 3, 2024 16:53:33 GMT
yes, a bit of expectation management needed I think And there was me hoping that someone in LDHQ was currently crafting 16 voodoo dolls.
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Post by islington on Jul 3, 2024 17:43:56 GMT
The vote shares attached to this are: Lab 39 Con 22 Ref 15 LD 12 Grn 7 I'm not going to try everyone's patience by explaining yet again why I don't find it credible that these vote shares would generate the distribution of seats in the MRP. In about 33 hours (give or take) I'll be on here either eating humble pie (which I promise to do if I'm wrong, although I draw the line at a hat), or else saying with unbearable smugness, "Told you so, told you so."
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 3, 2024 17:49:52 GMT
this election could do for MRPs what the 2001 election did for the ICM 'variometer'.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 3, 2024 17:50:28 GMT
The vote shares attached to this are: Lab 39 Con 22 Ref 15 LD 12 Grn 7 I'm not going to try everyone's patience by explaining yet again why I don't find it credible that these vote shares would generate the distribution of seats in the MRP. In about 33 hours (give or take) I'll be on here either eating humble pie (which I promise to do if I'm wrong, although I draw the line at a hat), or else saying with unbearable smugness, "Told you so, told you so." Can you give an executive summary of what you think those %s would look like in terms of seats
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Post by islington on Jul 3, 2024 17:59:52 GMT
The vote shares attached to this are: Lab 39 Con 22 Ref 15 LD 12 Grn 7 I'm not going to try everyone's patience by explaining yet again why I don't find it credible that these vote shares would generate the distribution of seats in the MRP. In about 33 hours (give or take) I'll be on here either eating humble pie (which I promise to do if I'm wrong, although I draw the line at a hat), or else saying with unbearable smugness, "Told you so, told you so." Can you give an executive summary of what you think those %s would look like in terms of seats Well, if you switch 40 seats from LD to Tory it would look a lot more plausible in my view (although frankly, with only 12% of the vote even 32 seats is pushing it for the LDs - it would mean that on practically the same vote share as in 2019 they had almost trebled their haul of seats). Apart from Tories and LDs, the numbers for the other parties look credible.
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 3, 2024 18:29:48 GMT
My constituency has Conservatives going from first down to third behind Reform. So does mine. That would surprise me greatly.
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