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Aug 20, 2022 12:59:45 GMT
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 20, 2022 12:59:45 GMT
I keep being told we're in an applicants market. Has anyone seen the jobs on offer... Five of my 12 regular carers will have left by September, I’m told no replacements have yet been employed. I'm looking for a way out but it's not very positive
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Aug 20, 2022 15:31:26 GMT
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Post by afleitch on Aug 20, 2022 15:31:26 GMT
I mean, the country looks and feels broken. The Tories have broken it and I do think we're a 'poll tax riot' away from a GE.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Aug 20, 2022 15:38:42 GMT
I mean, the country looks and feels broken. The Tories have broken it and I do think we're a 'poll tax riot' away from a GE. Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Aug 20, 2022 16:42:43 GMT
I mean, the country looks and feels broken. The Tories have broken it and I do think we're a 'poll tax riot' away from a GE. Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. A bad winter with people unable to pay their bills and cases of people losing their lives due to this will be enough to cause unrest.
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Post by John Chanin on Aug 20, 2022 17:28:15 GMT
Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. A bad winter with people unable to pay their bills and cases of people losing their lives due to this will be enough to cause unrest. People don’t riot in the winter. They riot in the summer when it’s hot, and everyone’s tired and irritable and out on the streets.
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Post by matureleft on Aug 20, 2022 17:37:33 GMT
Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. A bad winter with people unable to pay their bills and cases of people losing their lives due to this will be enough to cause unrest. I’m never inclined toward hyperbole but I’m sure that this is so. A very large proportion of people in this country live with no savings or reserves of any kind. The scale of these increases, particularly if the autumn and winter are anything other than very mild, will cause huge problems. Collecting debts, particularly if allied with the introduction of pre-pay arrangements, will cause a great deal of community reaction. And isolated people will be made very anxious and may not seek help.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Aug 20, 2022 18:03:09 GMT
I mean, the country looks and feels broken. The Tories have broken it and I do think we're a 'poll tax riot' away from a GE. Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. I would hope members of this forum would riot if there was a tax on polls…!
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 20, 2022 18:25:53 GMT
Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. I would hope members of this forum would riot if there was a tax on polls…! Well we could certainly send a very strong letter to er, The Times and um, somewhere else. Definitely. Possibly. After dinner.
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Aug 20, 2022 18:45:07 GMT
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 20, 2022 18:45:07 GMT
I mean, the country looks and feels broken. The Tories have broken it and I do think we're a 'poll tax riot' away from a GE. Riot? Nah. Can't think what would spark it. riot no but something has got to give. Things feel like they're really getting harder
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Post by jamie on Aug 26, 2022 9:52:14 GMT
This very much goes against my expectations.
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 26, 2022 12:30:58 GMT
This very much goes against my expectations. you do have to go back a long time for the last labour to Tory defector. 1979?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Aug 26, 2022 12:35:58 GMT
This very much goes against my expectations. you do have to go back a long time for the last labour to Tory defector. 1979? John Horam was later but did it via the SDP, and a spell out of parliament.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 26, 2022 13:05:59 GMT
This very much goes against my expectations. you do have to go back a long time for the last labour to Tory defector. 1979? Reg Prentice, 1977.
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Aug 26, 2022 14:36:45 GMT
Post by graham on Aug 26, 2022 14:36:45 GMT
Gisela Stuart and Ian Austin effectively defected to the Tories in 2019 by endorsing Johnson. I was so incensed at receiving a leaflet from Austin asking me to vote Tory that I sent him an email suggesting that he had so much in common with Pierre Laval who began his career on the Left yet ended on the far Right.
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Aug 26, 2022 14:37:38 GMT
Post by clyde1998 on Aug 26, 2022 14:37:38 GMT
This very much goes against my expectations. I find it quite bizarre when a politician moves directly between the Tories and Labour, especially once you're talking about MPs, as you're generally talking about a different set of political, social and economic values and priorities. It would be interesting to see a political compass style position for every MP to see what overlap there actually is between the parties. Defecting to a third party is more understandable, with the Lib Dems being the only major third party which it's conceivable to see both Labour and Conservative MPs being involved with.
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Aug 26, 2022 14:49:45 GMT
Post by graham on Aug 26, 2022 14:49:45 GMT
you do have to go back a long time for the last labour to Tory defector. 1979? John Horam was later but did it via the SDP, and a spell out of parliament. John Roper did likewise. Other former Labour MPs who eventually switched to the Tories were Richard Marsh and Desmond Donnelly.
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Aug 26, 2022 15:00:22 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Aug 26, 2022 15:00:22 GMT
John Horam was later but did it via the SDP, and a spell out of parliament. John Roper did likewise. Other former Labour MPs who eventually switched to the Tories were Richard Marsh and Desmond Donnelly. I thought John Roper joined the LibDems and became their chief whip in the Lords?
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Post by clyde1998 on Aug 26, 2022 15:06:07 GMT
England data, Wales dataIf the 2016 referendum on UK membership of the European Union was being held now, how would you vote?England - Remain 52; Leave 33; Would not vote 6; Don't know 8; Refused 3 Wales - Remain 51; Leave 32; Would not vote 7; Don't know 7; Refused 2 If there was a referendum now on whether the UK should or should not join the European Union, how would you vote?England - In favour of joining 44; Against joining 35; Would not vote 7; Don't know 11; Refused 3 Wales - In favour of joining 47; Against joining 35; Would not vote 6; Don't know 9; Refused 3 About a 15% swing in both towards Remain and 10% towards rejoining the EU. 13% of Leave voters in England, and 16% in Wales, would vote to rejoin compared to 9% and 8% respectively of Remain voters saying they'd vote to stay out.
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Aug 26, 2022 15:07:22 GMT
Post by graham on Aug 26, 2022 15:07:22 GMT
John Roper did likewise. Other former Labour MPs who eventually switched to the Tories were Richard Marsh and Desmond Donnelly. I thought John Roper joined the LibDems and became their chief whip in the Lords? You are quite correct! I thought I had read somewhere that he had become a Tory.
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 26, 2022 15:55:32 GMT
John Horam was later but did it via the SDP, and a spell out of parliament. John Roper did likewise. Other former Labour MPs who eventually switched to the Tories were Richard Marsh and Desmond Donnelly. Desmond Donnelly being a somewhat special case who eventually defected to his own party.
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