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Post by finsobruce on Apr 23, 2022 21:33:32 GMT
the great cricketer & multi-sportsman C.B.Fry (also held the world long jump record & played in the FA Cup Final) was a Liberal parliamentary candidate, but also advised Adolf Hitler on the formation of a youth movement. And Oswald Moseley was first a Tory, then a Labour MP, and indeed touted as a future Labour Prime Minister... First a Tory, then an Independent MP (which was when he made his reputation in the Commons), then a Labour MP.
Fry very nearly won Banbury in 1923. He apparently used his visit to Germany mainly to try and persuade the Reich to play cricket to test level, which tells you a lot about his health at the time.
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 23, 2022 22:45:50 GMT
And Oswald Moseley was first a Tory, then a Labour MP, and indeed touted as a future Labour Prime Minister... First a Tory, then an Independent MP (which was when he made his reputation in the Commons), then a Labour MP.
Fry very nearly won Banbury in 1923. He apparently used his visit to Germany mainly to try and persuade the Reich to play cricket to test level, which tells you a lot about his health at the time.
I'm not sure our national psyche would withstand being beaten by the Germans at cricket
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Post by iang on Apr 25, 2022 14:58:31 GMT
Two England cricketers - Donald Carr & Paul Terry - were born in Germany. Terry is perhaps best remembered as the person who batted one handed at no 11 against the 1984 West Indians with a broken arm to allow Allan Lamb to reach a century
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Post by timmullen1 on Apr 28, 2022 10:17:50 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 28, 2022 21:50:55 GMT
I will take Tories down 10, us up 3, Lab unchanged since 2018.
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Post by andrewp on May 10, 2022 11:04:59 GMT
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Post by cogload on May 10, 2022 11:49:15 GMT
Yeah yeah yeah. Outlier.
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Post by The Bishop on May 10, 2022 12:10:12 GMT
Stuff like the Brexit questions suggest the sample may be skewed to the right a bit.
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Post by london(ex)tory on May 10, 2022 14:06:56 GMT
Or perhaps Rallings & Thrasher’s national equivalent vote calculation for last week was closer than Curtice’s projected national share…?
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Post by andrew111 on May 10, 2022 14:07:40 GMT
Stuff like the Brexit questions suggest the sample may be skewed to the right a bit. The local election results do suggest the previous poll was nearer the mark
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Post by The Bishop on May 10, 2022 14:09:41 GMT
Or perhaps Rallings & Thrasher’s national equivalent vote calculation for last week was closer than Curtice’s projected national share…? Some are going to claim that, but the number of Tory seat losses makes it slightly counter intuitive.
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Post by andrew111 on May 10, 2022 14:24:19 GMT
Or perhaps Rallings & Thrasher’s national equivalent vote calculation for last week was closer than Curtice’s projected national share…? Some are going to claim that, but the number of Tory seat losses makes it slightly counter intuitive. Curtice has Lab=, Tories down 5, LD up 3 since 2018, which looks about right for the seat changes
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Post by robert1 on May 11, 2022 14:30:58 GMT
It is possible to lose large numbers of seats but have a narrow deficit in NEV when you are losing heavily in one area to party A but to party B in another.
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Post by andrewp on May 13, 2022 9:16:05 GMT
An almost exact reversal of last week
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Post by andrew111 on May 13, 2022 10:35:16 GMT
In the wiki polling average, LD are on exactly 11%, which is actually the highest (by 0.1%) since the 2019 GE.
The recent uptick is apparently at the expense of Reform, but that is probably actually churn via the Tories. Good local election campaigning and results giving more exposure across the country probably why.
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Post by batman on May 13, 2022 14:12:41 GMT
An almost exact reversal of last week ........which almost certainly goes to show that their previous poll was an outlier. Pretty much all other current polls are within MOE and show Labour leads of between 5 & 8 (the latter almost entirely Redfield & Wilton at present)
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Post by polupolu on May 20, 2022 16:13:45 GMT
Interesting. The implication is that the Tories are near their rock-bottom support level. I find that plausible.
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