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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 8:56:10 GMT
I'm not a close follower of football, but being a visitor at my in-laws brought to my attention that England beat San Marino 5-0 last night.
This prompted me to look up San Marino on Wikipedia, and there's something of more interest to me being mentioned - there is a general election scheduled for 11th November.
There are two major coalitions of parties in San Marino - the Pact for San Marino on the right (which won the 2008 election), and Reforms and Freedom on the left.
It appears as though elections must be held within five years of the previous one, but they are often held more frequently due to coalition partners falling out.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 13, 2012 9:02:33 GMT
I had a dream about San Marino a few days ago. It was before I knew that there was going to be a football match, so it must have been a coincidence of timing. In my dream, San Marino had invaded Italy and wanted to annex some of its territory. How the international community dealt with the crisis was the main issue in the Croydon North by-election.
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Post by john07 on Oct 13, 2012 11:59:33 GMT
I had a dream about San Marino a few days ago. It was before I knew that there was going to be a football match, so it must have been a coincidence of timing. In my dream, San Marino had invaded Italy and wanted to annex some of its territory. How the international community dealt with the crisis was the main issue in the Croydon North by-election. It sounds like the script from Passport to Pimlico! |
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 13, 2012 12:40:23 GMT
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 13, 2012 12:55:49 GMT
I had a dream about San Marino a few days ago. It was before I knew that there was going to be a football match, so it must have been a coincidence of timing. In my dream, San Marino had invaded Italy and wanted to annex some of its territory. How the international community dealt with the crisis was the main issue in the Croydon North by-election. It sounds like the script from Passport to Pimlico! More like The Mouse That Roared. |
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Post by cibwr on Oct 14, 2012 9:26:01 GMT
:-) but no Q bomb involved
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 16:05:49 GMT
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 19, 2012 16:10:22 GMT
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 19, 2012 16:41:38 GMT
That appears to be the total number of spoilt ballots. Somehow I doubt that they all had obscene drawings on!
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 19, 2012 17:02:52 GMT
That appears to be the total number of spoilt ballots. Somehow I doubt that they all had obscene drawings on! That may well be the case, but not the way the wikipedia is written  |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 19, 2012 18:30:06 GMT
It looks like there was some sort of organised protest - from the San Marino Tribune via Google Translate
The Secretariat for Internal Affairs, is to know that most of the cards annulled showed real signs of protest: swastikas, genitals, insults and various drawings. 1356 cards to trash, the 6.41% of the total. A protest born of the crisis we are experiencing, not only economic but also moral. A cry, strangled, a way to express their freedom, however, of opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 18:44:01 GMT
So there's three main coalitions. The one that came first is made up of a Christian democratic party, a 'centrist' party, a social democratic party and a social liberal party. The one that came second is made up of a social democratic party, a Christian democratic party and a conservative party. And the one that came third is made up of a socialist party, a communist party and, from what I've managed to find, a popular anti-privatisation party.  |
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 19, 2012 18:46:01 GMT
Not that odd. I think those three coalitions are basically center-left, center-right and hard-left respectively.
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Post by Sibboleth on Nov 19, 2012 18:56:24 GMT
Eh, it's a tiny place you know. People sometimes hate each other. These things happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 18:58:36 GMT
The hard-left coalition makes sense. But the Union for the Republic, which is the Christian democratic party in what you describe as the centre-right coalition, apparently includes a faction that was previously in coalition with the Communist Foundation and the Left Party, along with one of the social democratic parties that are split between the two larger coalitions.
It looks to me more like two vaguely centrist catch-all coalitions and one hard-left coalition. Is there a particular constitutional issue in San Marino that transcends left/right politics, or is it perhaps more about personalities, which would be understandable given that the entire population of San Marino is not much bigger than, say, St Andrews...
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Post by johnloony on Nov 21, 2012 2:04:24 GMT
The politics of San Marino were much easier to follow before the Italian party system collapsed - in those days the San Marinese parties closely mirrored the Italian ones. The main difference was that the Communist Party won a few elections in San Marino.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 20, 2013 8:51:29 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 9:06:24 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 9:32:32 GMT
Just had a look. The polls close at 8pm. Also in order to pass the yes vote requires both a majority of the votes and 32% of the electorate (10,657 votes)
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Post by markgoodair on Oct 20, 2013 9:43:42 GMT
Surely membership would have a very significant impact on their economy . At the moment alcohol and tobacco are muck cheap as they are mainly sold as duty free exports to the many tourists that come mainly for day visits from Rimini surely membership would sweep this away. Agriculture cannot be that big a player in San Marinos economy.
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