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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2013 14:23:53 GMT
Wow! Split "...For AND Against..."? |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 20, 2013 14:28:47 GMT
Surely membership would have a very significant impact on their economy . At the moment alcohol and tobacco are muck cheap as they are mainly sold as duty free exports to the many tourists that come mainly for day visits from Rimini surely membership would sweep this away. Agriculture cannot be that big a player in San Marinos economy. A lot of Italians go there too from the neighbouring areas. It is a very odd place totally distorted by being 'not Italy'. It could work against small business trade but in favour of structural grants, big business and the small political class much enriching themselves. |
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 18:17:33 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 18:56:04 GMT
Turnout 43.38% (14,446 votes)
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 20, 2013 18:58:48 GMT
Turnout 43.38% (14,446 votes) Which means that it would need to be a landslide for a yes vote to be binding. |
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Post by andrea on Oct 20, 2013 18:59:16 GMT
13 polling stations out of 51 reported
Yes 49.83
NO 50.17
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 19:07:10 GMT
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 20, 2013 19:07:24 GMT
Just had a look. The polls close at 8pm. Also in order to pass the yes vote requires both a majority of the votes and 32% of the electorate (10,657 votes) Why 32% - seems a rather odd number to pick? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 19:07:57 GMT
#SanMarino - referendum on EU membership - 25% of votes counted: NO 50.17%, YES 49.83% - currently a difference of 9 votes.
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 19:08:39 GMT
23 out of 51 reported
Yes 49.53%
NO 50.47%
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2013 19:09:14 GMT
Turnout 43.38% (14,446 votes) Which means that it would need to be a landslide for a yes vote to be binding. Not going to happen on first figures. |
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 19:30:37 GMT
36 out of 51 reported
Yes 50.05%
NO 49.95%
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 20, 2013 19:39:39 GMT
36 out of 51 reported Yes 50.05% NO 49.95% Yes now ahead due to a combination of the postal votes (at least I'm assuming they are the postal votes ) and the first figures from the castello of Faetano |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 19:42:06 GMT
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#SanMarino - referendum on EU membership: YES camp can no longer reached the required quorum even if it were to win all remaining votes.
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Post by andrea on Oct 20, 2013 19:55:08 GMT
36 out of 51 reported Yes 50.05% NO 49.95% Yes now ahead due to a combination of the postal votes (at least I'm assuming they are the postal votes ) Totale Esteri are San Marinese people living abroad (their turnout is obviously dreadful). There was an alleged scandal at last election because some of the abroad voters arrived by bus and there were accusations on who paid for their journey |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 21:09:43 GMT
36 out of 51 reported Yes 50.05% NO 49.95% I wonder how many voters a 0.1% lead is San Marino, must be close to single figures. |
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Post by Devonian on Oct 20, 2013 21:17:47 GMT
Final results
Totale Interni - Yes 6389 (49.79%) No 6444 (50.21%)
Totale Esteri - Yes 344 (61.76%) No 213 (38.24%)
Overall Total Yes 6733 50.28%
No 6657 49.72%
Yes vote 20.22% of total electorate
Quorum 32%
Proposal Rejected - Quorum NOT reached
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Post by johnloony on Oct 21, 2013 4:00:37 GMT
Wow! Split "...For AND Against..."? It would be difficult for them to be split if they were all For, wouldn't it?  |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2013 10:49:51 GMT
Wow! Split "...For AND Against..."? It would be difficult for them to be split if they were all For, wouldn't it? I don't take myself very seriously John, nor indeed most things. Humour and irony and even sarcasm come easily, perhaps too easily? Don't take on so. You are one of the posters I most like and follow with the most interest. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 0:10:24 GMT
60 members of the Consiglio Grande e Generale will be elected for a five year term on November 20. The Council appoints both the government (Il Congresso di Stato), and the two Captains Regents, who serve as joint heads of state for six months.
A majority of at least 35 seats is given to the coalition of parties which receives an absolute majority in either the first round, or an eventual second round. Within the coalitions seats are divided between the parties using D'Hondt. There is a 3.5% threshold. It is possible to either vote for a party or the entire coalition, but the latter is rare.
San Marino has a remarkably elaborate party system for such a small place, but it reflects the influence from Italy and has developed from one resembling the pre-1990s Italian party system through a confusing amount of mergers and splits. Especially as most of the major parties are centrist.
The government is from "San Marino Common Good", which consisted of the Christian Democrats (PDCS) and their traditional sidekick We Sanmarinese (NS), the Social Democrats in the Party of Socialists and Democrats (PSD), and the Liberals in the Popular Alliance (AP). PDCS/NS have 21 seats, PDS 10 and AP 4. They got 50.7% in the first round in 2012 and thus avoided a second round to determine the "bonus" (the 35 seats minimum).
The main opposition alliance is "Agreement for the Country," consisted of the Socialist Party (PS) (Social Democrats and Social Liberals), and the Christian Left Union for the Republic (UPR). In 2012 the two parties were allied with a Conservative two party alliance, which failed to pass the threshold and disbanded. PS have 7 seats and UPR 5.
The third coalition in the outgoing parliament is the leftist "Active Citizenship" consisting of the mix of eco-socialists and (unreformed) Communists in United Left (SU) and the direct democracy Movimento Civico10 (MC10). SU have 5 seats and MC10 have 4.
The Renewal, Equity, Transparency and Eco-sustainability Civic Movement (R.E.T.E.) have four seats and ran without partners in 2012. They have some ties to M5S.
Two small lists For San Marino and San Marino 3.0 got 2.8% and 1.8% respectively in 2012, but I doubt they are running again (under different names if they are).
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