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Post by ibfc on Jun 23, 2021 7:49:38 GMT
As per Wasserman, this should be enough for Adams.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 10:35:36 GMT
As per Wasserman, this should be enough for Adams. Turns out not living in New York City in the pandemic isn't a good look if you want to be mayor
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Post by neilm on Jun 23, 2021 11:14:39 GMT
Has anyone seen the video of him showing people around his flat, which looks very much like he doesn't live there? He claims to follow a plant based diet but there's a salmon in the fridge.
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Post by adlai52 on Jun 23, 2021 11:14:50 GMT
As per Wasserman, this should be enough for Adams. If Adams - a former beat cop, who's been out spoken on law and order issues (for a Dem) - wins in a big city that skews heavily to the left, it's hard to see where that leaves the 'defund the police' left to go?
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 23, 2021 11:23:40 GMT
As per Wasserman, this should be enough for Adams. If Adams - a former beat cop, who's been out spoken on law and order issues (for a Dem) - wins in a big city that skews heavily to the left, it's hard to see where that leaves the 'defund the police' left to go? Remember NYC was also the base of Rudy Guiliani....it's quite possible for places to not fulfil every expected stance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 11:29:39 GMT
As per Wasserman, this should be enough for Adams. If Adams - a former beat cop, who's been out spoken on law and order issues (for a Dem) - wins in a big city that skews heavily to the left, it's hard to see where that leaves the 'defund the police' left to go? Stupid phrase
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2021 11:36:28 GMT
If Adams - a former beat cop, who's been out spoken on law and order issues (for a Dem) - wins in a big city that skews heavily to the left, it's hard to see where that leaves the 'defund the police' left to go? Remember NYC was also the base of Rudy Guiliani....it's quite possible for places to not fulfil every expected stance. Giuliani was something of an anomaly; he really was a liberal Republican when he ran against Dinkin, and that was a very racially polarised campaign (not exclusively on the GOP side), and on 10 September 2001 there was no way on Earth he was getting re-elected, but 9/11, and the stupid NYC Democratic response in the couple of months between primary and general election made it a walk in the park.
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Post by neilm on Jun 23, 2021 11:44:56 GMT
Remember NYC was also the base of Rudy Guiliani....it's quite possible for places to not fulfil every expected stance. Giuliani was something of an anomaly; he really was a liberal Republican when he ran against Dinkin, and that was a very racially polarised campaign (not exclusively on the GOP side), and on 10 September 2001 there was no way on Earth he was getting re-elected, but 9/11, and the stupid NYC Democratic response in the couple of months between primary and general election made it a walk in the park. Except he was term limited and therefore didn't get re-elected.
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 23, 2021 12:02:04 GMT
Remember NYC was also the base of Rudy Guiliani....it's quite possible for places to not fulfil every expected stance. Giuliani was something of an anomaly; he really was a liberal Republican when he ran against Dinkin, and that was a very racially polarised campaign (not exclusively on the GOP side), and on 10 September 2001 there was no way on Earth he was getting re-elected, but 9/11, and the stupid NYC Democratic response in the couple of months between primary and general election made it a walk in the park. What he really did gain popularity on though, was his zero tolerance approach to crime, and it's that I was referring to. I don't think NYC is necessarily as receptive to a critical view on the police as some other cities. The defund the police view is grossly misrepresented here anyway, but there may be more receptive places than NYC
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2021 14:07:44 GMT
Giuliani was something of an anomaly; he really was a liberal Republican when he ran against Dinkin, and that was a very racially polarised campaign (not exclusively on the GOP side), and on 10 September 2001 there was no way on Earth he was getting re-elected, but 9/11, and the stupid NYC Democratic response in the couple of months between primary and general election made it a walk in the park. Except he was term limited and therefore didn't get re-elected. Bad days for me Wednesday, have an extended care call, that buggers me up physically, and today thought it was fun to rock up an hour early, so general rule of thumb is ignore anything I type on a Wednesday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 14:30:18 GMT
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 23, 2021 14:56:37 GMT
I never considered him a serious contender but given the amount of coverage he got from a clueless media that is a laughable result for Yang.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 23, 2021 15:00:36 GMT
I never considered him a serious contender but given the amount of coverage he got from a clueless media that is a laughable result for Yang. Although lot of the coverage, especially recently, has been of the slightly withering variety.
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Post by adlai52 on Jun 23, 2021 15:14:49 GMT
If Adams - a former beat cop, who's been out spoken on law and order issues (for a Dem) - wins in a big city that skews heavily to the left, it's hard to see where that leaves the 'defund the police' left to go? Remember NYC was also the base of Rudy Guiliani....it's quite possible for places to not fulfil every expected stance. True. Plus areas in the outer boroughs (most famously Staten Island) have a history of backing right of center candidates. Although, NYC has got much harder for even pragmatic republicans to win in - even Bloomberg switched to independent and even then his massive fundraising advantage didn't do him any harm.
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Post by ibfc on Jun 23, 2021 15:55:55 GMT
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Post by jamie on Jun 23, 2021 17:24:28 GMT
This was evident in 2016 when Sanders won a states low turnout caucus (which allocated delegates) in a landslide then Clinton actually won the much higher turnout primary a few weeks later. I also remember seeing credible speculation that AOC would have lost her 2018 primary if it had been held concurrent with the higher turnout primary for state offices.
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Post by john07 on Jun 23, 2021 18:54:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 21:18:28 GMT
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Post by stb12 on Jun 23, 2021 23:45:33 GMT
Except he was term limited and therefore didn't get re-elected. Bad days for me Wednesday, have an extended care call, that buggers me up physically, and today thought it was fun to rock up an hour early, so general rule of thumb is ignore anything I type on a Wednesday. Putting aside the confusion there though is it not believed Michael Bloomberg's election as a then Republican was helped by how Giuliani was perceived to have done on 9/11?
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Post by stb12 on Jun 23, 2021 23:47:29 GMT
Giuliani was something of an anomaly; he really was a liberal Republican when he ran against Dinkin, and that was a very racially polarised campaign (not exclusively on the GOP side), and on 10 September 2001 there was no way on Earth he was getting re-elected, but 9/11, and the stupid NYC Democratic response in the couple of months between primary and general election made it a walk in the park. Except he was term limited and therefore didn't get re-elected. Due to the term limit did he not try and run against one Hillary Rodham Clinton for the vacant New York senate seat only to pull out due to some scandal?
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