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Post by ricmk on Mar 23, 2018 12:12:59 GMT
From Britain Elects @britainelects
Penicuik (Midlothian) first preferences:
SNP: 35.0% (-0.2)
CON: 30.2% (+4.0)
LAB: 27.6% (+2.0)
GRN: 7.2% (+1.6)
No candidate achieves quota.
Count now moves to transfers.
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Post by froome on Mar 23, 2018 12:16:53 GMT
CITY OF LONDON Billingsgate John Michael ALLEN-PETRIE (Independent) 40 Dawn Linsey WRIGHT (Independent) 30 Alpa RAJA (Independent) 14 Timothy George Christie BECKER (Independent) 6 Which candidate represented the fishmongers? |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2018 12:20:11 GMT
CITY OF LONDON Billingsgate John Michael ALLEN-PETRIE (Independent) 40 Dawn Linsey WRIGHT (Independent) 30 Alpa RAJA (Independent) 14 Timothy George Christie BECKER (Independent) 6 Which candidate represented the fishmongers? the market hasn't been there for a long time now, so this is a bit of a red herring. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 23, 2018 12:22:41 GMT
CITY OF LONDON Billingsgate John Michael ALLEN-PETRIE (Independent) 40 Dawn Linsey WRIGHT (Independent) 30 Alpa RAJA (Independent) 14 Timothy George Christie BECKER (Independent) 6 Which candidate represented the fishmongers? The candidates for Canary Wharf ward in Tower Hamlets. |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 23, 2018 12:27:30 GMT
Which candidate represented the fishmongers? the market hasn't been there for a long time now, so this is a bit of a red herring. I'm not going to take the (white)bait here. |
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 23, 2018 12:29:21 GMT
the market hasn't been there for a long time now, so this is a bit of a red herring. I'm not going to take the (white)bait here. I hear there was some campaigning by Hope not Hake.... |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 23, 2018 12:45:21 GMT
Labour eliminated on the second count in Penicuik; now between the SNP and Conservatives. SNP start off in the lead and the votes being transferred were Labour first prefs so an SNP win looking almost certain.
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Post by ricmk on Mar 23, 2018 13:05:27 GMT
Labour eliminated on the second count in Penicuik; now between the SNP and Conservatives. SNP start off in the lead and the votes being transferred were Labour first prefs so an SNP win looking almost certain. SNP lead by 334 after round 2 so it would need a big turnaround for them not to take the seat now. Would be the final insult to Labour activists down south though, if their votes won the seat for the Tories..... |
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 23, 2018 13:07:56 GMT
This result may well demonstrate that "tactical" unionist voters here would have been better off first preferencing Labour rather than Tory.
(had the final round been SNP v Labour, the latter would almost certainly have come out on top)
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Post by AdminSTB on Mar 23, 2018 13:12:38 GMT
This result may well demonstrate that "tactical" unionist voters here would have been better off first preferencing Labour rather than Tory. (had the final round been SNP v Labour, the latter would almost certainly have come out on top) Surely you wouldn't want to have your victory contaminated by Tory transfers ;-) Seriously, it's an interesting hypothesis and it would be nice to see it tested sometime, but I think the last three times now have ended up as SNP vs Con. |
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Post by borderscot on Mar 23, 2018 13:22:22 GMT
This result may well demonstrate that "tactical" unionist voters here would have been better off first preferencing Labour rather than Tory. (had the final round been SNP v Labour, the latter would almost certainly have come out on top) The problem though, is that I'm not sure that the current Labour leadership is seen as sufficiently pro-Union to attract those tactical votes. Certainly JCs stance on Northern Ireland would be off-putting for those voters who see themselves as emotionally, rather than pragmatically, pro-Union. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 13:29:55 GMT
Penicuik SNP Gain from Labour
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 23, 2018 13:35:54 GMT
This result may well demonstrate that "tactical" unionist voters here would have been better off first preferencing Labour rather than Tory. (had the final round been SNP v Labour, the latter would almost certainly have come out on top) The problem though, is that I'm not sure that the current Labour leadership is seen as sufficiently pro-Union to attract those tactical votes. Certainly JCs stance on Northern Ireland would be off-putting for those voters who see themselves as emotionally, rather than pragmatically, pro-Union. Though I would have thought the most "emotionally committed" to the union tend towards the Tories anyway. SLab's future is probably "pragmatic unionism". |
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Post by justin124 on Mar 23, 2018 13:37:46 GMT
Penicuik SNP Gain from Labour Despite - rather perversely - there having been a swing from SNP to Labour on the basis of first preferences! |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 23, 2018 13:39:31 GMT
Penicuik SNP Gain from Labour Despite - rather perversely - there having been a swing from SNP to Labour on the basis of first preferences! Such is the drawback with by-elections in multi-member STV systems. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 13:43:45 GMT
Penicuik SNP Gain from Labour Despite - rather perversely - there having been a swing from SNP to Labour on the basis of first preferences! Yes, Labour will be bitterly disappointed, I had expected them to push the Tories into third place. This also now makes the SNP the largest party on Midlothian Council. |
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Post by beastofbedfordshire on Mar 23, 2018 13:45:55 GMT
'Tis unfortunate this Unionist vote splitting.
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 23, 2018 13:59:44 GMT
'Tis unfortunate this Unionist vote splitting. It's largely the product of having a system designed for multi member seats used for a single individual in the case of a by election. Emphasises why I don't like any preference systems. |
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Post by beastofbedfordshire on Mar 23, 2018 14:01:02 GMT
'Tis unfortunate this Unionist vote splitting. It's largely the product of having a system designed for multi member seats used for a single individual in the case of a by election. Emphasises why I don't like any preference systems.Something we agree on. |
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 23, 2018 14:06:44 GMT
It's largely the product of having a system designed for multi member seats used for a single individual in the case of a by election. Emphasises why I don't like any preference systems.Something we agree on. Perhaps because we are both delighted not to be "Moderates" 💩 |
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