Richard Allen
Banned
Four time loser in VUKPOTY finals
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 8, 2012 10:40:15 GMT
Could someone please explain to me what the expenses of not doing something are? In my experience, they are incurred after a lapse of time, or not at all. Why should an MP's be different? Far be it from me to defend the IRA's MPs, and I don't think they should be paid expenses, but not taking their seats does not mean that they do nothing. |
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Harry Hayfield
Green
Cavalier Gentleman (as in 17th century Cavalier)
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Dec 8, 2012 13:54:17 GMT
Which brings us back to the point in hand, IS Mr. McGuiness going to resign his Westminster seat this side of the general election?
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The Bishop
Labour
Down With Factionalism!
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 8, 2012 14:34:42 GMT
Has anybody asked him??
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Post by Tangent on Dec 8, 2012 16:46:32 GMT
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YL
Non-Aligned
Either Labour leaning or Lib Dem leaning but not sure which
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Post by YL on Dec 8, 2012 19:33:27 GMT
How does resigning in December make a winter by-election less likely than resigning in June? |
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Post by Tangent on Dec 8, 2012 20:24:05 GMT
I was unable to follow his logic here, too. In fact, you're probably more likely to have unpleasant weather after Christmas than before it, going by most winters.
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Post by irish observer on Dec 14, 2012 23:06:49 GMT
In a curious development Sinn Féin have selected Francie Molloy, their 61 year old Coalisland based, Stormont Deputy Speaker as their candidate for the by-election. Personally I would have thought they would have chosen a younger councillor or even Declan Kearney who doesn't hold an elected office for them. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/sinn-fein-chooses-francie-molloy-as-mid-ulster-candidate-16249949.htmlI can't post links to hand but internet chatter and consensus from political hacks is that Patsy McGlone MLA will run for the SDLP and Ian McCrea MLA will do the same for the DUP but obviously Molloy will win in a canter. |
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Rural Radical
Labour
Now living in a Labour held ward at Borough level for the first time in many years
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Post by Rural Radical on Dec 16, 2012 20:51:51 GMT
Well of course no Sinn Feiner will take their seat, so the assembly is where their talent will want to go and shine.
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Post by johnloony on Dec 27, 2012 0:54:40 GMT
I wonder if he has forgotten he said that? |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 27, 2012 1:09:02 GMT
Maybe he's forgotten the difference?
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john07
Labour & Co-operative
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Post by john07 on Dec 27, 2012 2:53:47 GMT
Personally I would have thought they would have chosen a younger councillor or even Declan Kearney who doesn't hold an elected office for them. Presumably SF's main focus is on the Assembly so they want their up-and-coming younger politicians to go there? To have a Shinner nominated for election to Westminister is becoming a pre-retirement gift. Rather like the Northern Ireland portfolio from Westminster under Thatcher! |
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Post by thirdchill on Dec 30, 2012 16:43:36 GMT
Presumably SF's main focus is on the Assembly so they want their up-and-coming younger politicians to go there? To have a Shinner nominated for election to Westminister is becoming a pre-retirement gift. Rather like the Northern Ireland portfolio from Westminster under Thatcher! The Northern Ireland portfolio in the 70's and 80's was a poisoned chalice of a cabinet position. Nowadays it is relatively unimportant and very minor. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 21:25:49 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 30, 2012 21:30:59 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 30, 2012 21:31:56 GMT
"I have served formal notice of my resignation from the position of MP for Mid-Ulster with immediate effect." (My emphasis)
Oh heck, not another round of this...
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Post by Tangent on Dec 30, 2012 22:09:17 GMT
"I have served formal notice of my resignation from the position of MP for Mid-Ulster with immediate effect." ( My emphasis) Oh heck, not another round of this... I was suspecting this will now become the formula: SF "resign" by writing to the Speaker, and the letter is passed to the Treasury, who then eventually announce the appointment to an office of profit. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 30, 2012 22:21:49 GMT
Why should John Bercow have to play messenger boy?
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Post by Tangent on Dec 30, 2012 23:05:14 GMT
No reason at all. But it looks like one of those informal compromises that becomes traditional over time.
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Crimson King
Lib Dem
Be nice to each other and sing in tune
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Post by Crimson King on Dec 31, 2012 8:59:23 GMT
Why should John Bercow have to play messenger boy? You might well ask why should you pretend to apply for a job that doesn't really exist in order to resign, the answer to which is more or less summed up by Tangent above |
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Post by innocentabroad on Dec 31, 2012 9:08:51 GMT
Why should John Bercow have to play messenger boy? You might well ask why should you pretend to apply for a job that doesn't really exist in order to resign, the answer to which is more or less summed up by Tangent above It is, surely, inevitable that sooner or later a mainland MP will copy Shinner practice and a few years after that the "offices of profit" will themselves be abolished. |
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