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Post by andrea on Oct 17, 2012 21:38:02 GMT
Winston McKenzie says on twitter that he's the UKIP candidate. Croydon Advertiser has a piece regarding Labour potential candidates. Alastair Campbell rules himself out (apparently, somebody suggested him). 2 local Cllrs (Tony Newman and Stuart Collins) also confirmed they won't apply while Gerry Ryan (2010 Croydon Central candidate) didn't comment on candidacy speculation. On the other hand, they say Val Shawcross (GLA member for Southwark and Lambeth and former Croydon council leader) will put her name forward. www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Alastair-Campbell-rules-Croydon-North-election/story-17072591-detail/story.html |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 17, 2012 21:48:40 GMT
I expect the nomination is a near cert for Shawcross if she wants it.......
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2012 21:50:37 GMT
I expect the nomination is a near cert for Shawcross if she wants it....... Hmm - would this mean the first London Assembly byelection? (Possibly could be delayed until London council elections in 2014.) |
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Post by stepney on Oct 17, 2012 22:28:26 GMT
I expect the nomination is a near cert for Shawcross if she wants it....... Hmm - would this mean the first London Assembly byelection? ( Possibly could be delayed until London council elections in 2014.) I take it you mean she could delay resigning from the Assembly until 2014, rather than the seat be left vacant for 18 months - on that point, what is the procedure for calling a GLA by-election if a seat falls vacant? I imagine it's the usual "2 residents call it" as with a council vacancy, but I could be wrong. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 17, 2012 22:55:16 GMT
I take it you mean she could delay resigning from the Assembly until 2014 ... Indeed. There is no legal prohibition on serving as an Assembly Member and an MP, but it's not something that can easily be done. Having said that Andrew Pelling managed it for three years. It is: Greater London Authority Act 1999, s. 10(6)(b). |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 18, 2012 9:14:35 GMT
I expect the nomination is a near cert for Shawcross if she wants it....... Hmm - would this mean the first London Assembly byelection? (Possibly could be delayed until London council elections in 2014.) I doubt it. Other GLA members have overlapped as MPs for a while without resigning. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 18, 2012 9:18:39 GMT
Croydon Advertiser has a piece regarding Labour potential candidates. Alastair Campbell rules himself out (apparently, somebody suggested him). 2 local Cllrs (Tony Newman and Stuart Collins) also confirmed they won't apply while Gerry Ryan (2010 Croydon Central candidate) didn't comment on candidacy speculation. On the other hand, they say Val Shawcross (GLA member for Southwark and Lambeth and former Croydon council leader) will put her name forward. www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Alastair-Campbell-rules-Croydon-North-election/story-17072591-detail/story.htmlThe other person mentioned in the Croydon Advertiser is Louisa Woodley, who was the GLA candidate for Croydon & Sutton. When the vacancy occurred and when I started thinking about likely Labour candidates, I thought of (a) local Labour councillors, and (b) former MPs from elsewhere who lost their seats in 2010. I didn't think about the in-between option of GLA members or other people. I started off by thinking that Louisa Woodley might be the favourite, but now I agree that Valerie Shawcross is more likely. As I understand it, the NEC draws up the shortlist, but the local CLP makes the final decision. If so, I would be very surprised if the Labour candidate is not a Croydon person. |
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Post by andrea on Oct 18, 2012 10:24:27 GMT
Marisha Ray (Islington Cllr 2002-10) selected for the LibDems. When the vacancy occurred and when I started thinking about likely Labour candidates, I thought of (a) local Labour councillors, and (b) former MPs from elsewhere who lost their seats in 2010. I didn't think about the in-between option of GLA members or other people. I started off by thinking that Louisa Woodley might be the favourite, but now I agree that Valerie Shawcross is more likely. As I understand it, the NEC draws up the shortlist, but the local CLP makes the final decision. If so, I would be very surprised if the Labour candidate is not a Croydon person. The process should be something like the following: hopefuls should send their CVs to the national party by a deadline. Then a panel composed by 3 NEC members is put in charge of the process. They will longlist a certain number of people to be interviewed by them. After the interviews (they usally take place in 1-2 days), they draw up a shortlist (the number of people shortlisted can vary: in Ealing Southall they were just 2, in Bradford West 7. I suppose it depends on the quality of applicants, erm, actually, probably on the exigences of the party). Then local members will vote the candidate choosing between people shortlisted. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 18:14:44 GMT
I know these things are not without fault but indicative statistics are the backbone of this site, after all  |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 19, 2012 14:42:27 GMT
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Post by johnloony on Oct 20, 2012 9:00:35 GMT
I have been thinking a bit more about how many parties are likely to have candidates, and who those candidates are likely to be.
Conservative: definitely, Andrew Stranack
Labour: definitely, not yet selected but possibly Valerie Shawcross
Lib Dem: definitely, Marisha Ray
Green: almost certainly, probably Shasha Khan
UKIP: yes, Winston MacKenzie
NF: rumour says yes, Richard Edmonds
BNP: Normally I would have expected the BNP not to stand, but they might be prompted to do so in order to oppose the NF. If they do, probably Cliff Le May.
English Democrats: unlikely. The last time there was any sign of the ED in Croydon was when Graham Dare was prospective candidate for Croydon Central for about 5 minutes in 2010.
Christian Party or Christian People's Alliance: Probably one or the other, but not both. In 2010 the CP stood in Croydon North in the general election, and the CPA had 2 candidates in the local elections in Thornton Heath. They might decide that it's the CPA's "turn". Candidate unknown.
Communist Party of Britain: unknown. Ben Stevenson stood in Croydon North in 2010. He might stand again, or it might be Dr Peter Latham.
TUSC: has said it will stand, candidate not yet selected.
Respect: unknown. I guess that if TUSC stands, Respect wouldn't "need" to.
OMRLP: undecided if I will stand, but definitly me rather than anyone else.
The two CPA candidates in the local election in 2010 had surnames beginning with A and B, and if either of them is selected as the candidate for the by-election, they would come ahead of me. Otherwise it looks as though I might be the first name on the ballot paper.
Plus whatever random independents or others that I don't know about.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 20, 2012 9:17:04 GMT
I know these things are not without fault but indicative statistics are the backbone of this site, after all I can't help being curious about why you seem to be annoying us all by producing graphs which are far too wide and which therefore produce stretch marks on our computer screens... ... Can Comrade KK do something about this bombastic pobblagak who is clearly hell-bent on destroying civilization? Cn the graphs be squashed to a more reaonable size? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 9:55:13 GMT
I know these things are not without fault but indicative statistics are the backbone of this site, after all I can't help being curious about why you seem to be annoying us all by producing graphs which are far too wide and which therefore produce stretch marks on our computer screens... ... Can Comrade KK do something about this bombastic pobblagak who is clearly hell-bent on destroying civilization? Cn the graphs be squashed to a more reasonable size? I apologise John for my bambustuous, ramnanignorant and humnungnory laxitude towards people with narrower screens than my own. To remedy this dumb-headed oversight, I have produced a less stretched representation of the results thusly:  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 14:41:50 GMT
Robin Smith of the Young People's Party, which he formed, has declared his intention to stand here.
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 21, 2012 15:07:04 GMT
Is he any younger than their Corby candidate?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 15:08:05 GMT
Ah I think you're referring to the young lad who formed the United People's Party.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 21, 2012 15:11:54 GMT
Is he any younger than their Corby candidate? Is he less batshit insane than their Corby candidate? |
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Post by stepney on Oct 21, 2012 15:17:48 GMT
Is he any younger than their Corby candidate? Is he less batshit insane than their Corby candidate? . |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 22, 2012 9:08:25 GMT
I can't help being curious about why you seem to be annoying us all by producing graphs which are far too wide and which therefore produce stretch marks on our computer screens... ... Can Comrade KK do something about this bombastic pobblagak who is clearly hell-bent on destroying civilization? Cn the graphs be squashed to a more reasonable size? I apologise John for my bambustuous, ramnanignorant and humnungnory laxitude towards people with narrower screens than my own. To remedy this dumb-headed oversight, I have produced a less stretched representation of the results thusly: That's no use. You have simply reduced the original one in size - in both dimensions. What on earth is wrong with producing a normal, reasonable graph in the first place? You only have 4 data points along the X-axis; they could be 1 or 2 centimetres apart from each other instead of the 329 million lihght-years you insist on using. By producing such unwieldy, large graphs, you are annoying everybody by stretching the whole page outwards so that we keep having to scroll sideays to read everything. It's no use making the excuse that other people have got narrower screens than you - you've obviously got the widest screen in the universe. I strongly suggest to our Great Leader KK that he should remove the offending graphs from this thread (and the other by-election threads) so that they can be resored to some sort of normality. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 22, 2012 9:15:37 GMT
Robin Smith of the Young People's Party, which he formed, has declared his intention to stand here. Source: gco2e.blogspot.co.uk/P.S. I also forgot to mention Mark Samuel (People's Choice) as a possibility. I haven't checked with him whether he intends to stand or not; he is usually a Croydon South person. |
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