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Post by yellowperil on Nov 17, 2017 7:51:54 GMT
As well as the Waveney results which we knew were Friday declarations , we still await Chiltern ( is that another Friday one?) and the two Darlington ones ( half the story from Red Hall, nothing from Mowlem, but presumably both were being declared last night).Seems everyone got a bit bored with this weeks lot?
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Post by stananson on Nov 17, 2017 9:30:04 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 17, 2017 10:16:07 GMT
So that 46 votes isn;t such a terrible result given the low total vote (beating established Lib Dems and Greens combined) and it's a pretty poor result for Labour in a safe ward - almost lost to the Tories
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 17, 2017 10:37:02 GMT
That looks like a *very* low turnout as well.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 17, 2017 11:02:58 GMT
Electorate was 2649 in 2015 so would be less than 20% if its around that now
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 17, 2017 11:12:06 GMT
CHILTERN Penn and Coleshill
WATERS, Jonathan David Hammond (The Conservative Party Candidate) 697
WILLIAMS, Richard Neil (Liberal Democrat) 168
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Post by AdminSTB on Nov 17, 2017 11:12:44 GMT
That looks like a *very* low turnout as well. 19% according to the council. |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 17, 2017 11:20:44 GMT
Electorate was 2649 in 2015 so would be less than 20% if its around that now It was, and quite a contrast with the Mowden turnout in an almost respectable mid-thirties? Meant that the badly trounced Labour candidate in Mowden got more votes than their successful teenager in Red Hall. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 17, 2017 11:23:10 GMT
Is the (Labour run) council in Darlington particularly controversial/unpopular? That might help explain the differing turnouts as well as the results.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2017 11:26:07 GMT
Is the (Labour run) council in Darlington particularly controversial/unpopular? That might help explain the differing turnouts as well as the results. Why? Surely if there was an effect it would be seen in both wards? |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 17, 2017 11:29:49 GMT
Tory voters turning out in reasonable numbers in "their" ward, but several Labour ones not bothering to show up in "theirs"?
I think that's pretty consistent with what I suggested.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 17, 2017 11:31:12 GMT
Is the (Labour run) council in Darlington particularly controversial/unpopular? That might help explain the differing turnouts as well as the results. Why? Surely if there was an effect it would be seen in both wards? Because Mowden is a more middle class ward so turnout would normally be higher anyway (it was 76% in 2015 against 58% in Red Hall) but also because it is a Tory ward and if the Labour council is unpopular, Tory voters would be more motivated to come out and vote against the administration ? |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 17, 2017 11:38:31 GMT
So that 46 votes isn;t such a terrible result given the low total vote (beating established Lib Dems and Greens combined) and it's a pretty poor result for Labour in a safe ward - almost lost to the Tories A bit misleading to describe either Lib Dems or Greens as "established" in that local context? Paper candidates where there is no tradition of standing are only ever going to get a handful of votes. The whole thing is bit of a travesty of an election and nobody comes out of it with much credit. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 17, 2017 11:45:03 GMT
So that 46 votes isn;t such a terrible result given the low total vote (beating established Lib Dems and Greens combined) and it's a pretty poor result for Labour in a safe ward - almost lost to the Tories A bit misleading to describe either Lib Dems or Greens as "established" in that local context? Paper candidates where there is no tradition of standing are only ever going to get a handful of votes. The whole thing is bit of a travesty of an election and nobody comes out of it with much credit. Both parties contested the previous election in this ward and the Lib Dems had contested most of the previous elections in the predecessor ward as they did most wards in Darlington. I don't see why it's contentious to describe the Lib Dems and Greens as established parties - most people in Darlington will know about these parties regardless of whether large numbers have ever chosen to vote for them. If in a different context I sought to maintain that the Lib Dems were a minor or fringe party I'm sure you would be taking issue with me so I really think you are just arguing for the sake of it |
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 17, 2017 12:02:10 GMT
A bit misleading to describe either Lib Dems or Greens as "established" in that local context? Paper candidates where there is no tradition of standing are only ever going to get a handful of votes. The whole thing is bit of a travesty of an election and nobody comes out of it with much credit. Both parties contested the previous election in this ward and the Lib Dems had contested most of the previous elections in the predecessor ward as they did most wards in Darlington. I don't see why it's contentious to describe the Lib Dems and Greens as established parties - most people in Darlington will know about these parties regardless of whether large numbers have ever chosen to vote for them. If in a different context I sought to maintain that the Lib Dems were a minor or fringe party I'm sure you would be taking issue with me so I really think you are just arguing for the sake of it In a different context I might indeed take issue, but I never argue just for the sake of it  |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 17, 2017 12:07:15 GMT
WAVENEY Kirkley
Peter Allen BYATT (Labour Party) 374
Gillian GUNNER (The Conservative Party Candidate) 217
Dominic LESLIE (Liberal Democrat) 84
Philip Gordon TRINDALL (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 78
Benedict Mark QUAIL (Green Party) 30
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 17, 2017 12:08:39 GMT
WAVENEY St Margarets
Linda Avril COULAM (The Conservative Party Candidate) 487
Nasima BEGUM (Labour Party) 410
Bernard John GUYMER (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) 119
Shaun Anthony WATERS (Liberal Democrat) 88
Basma BEMMENT (Green Party) 65
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2017 12:45:22 GMT
Kirkley (Waveney) result:
LAB: 47.8% (+12.2)
CON: 27.7% (+7.2)
LDEM: 10.7% (+10.7)
UKIP: 10.0% (-9.7)
GRN: 3.8% (-5.1)
Labour HOLD.
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 17, 2017 12:45:39 GMT
St Margaret's (Waveney) result:
CON: 41.7% (+11.8)
LAB: 35.1% (-1.3)
UKIP: 10.2% (-15.8)
LDEM: 7.5% (+7.5)
GRN: 5.6% (-2.2)
Conservative GAIN from Labour.
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 17, 2017 12:53:31 GMT
St Margaret's (Waveney) result: CON: 41.7% (+11.8) LAB: 35.1% (-1.3) UKIP: 10.2% (-15.8) LDEM: 7.5% (+7.5) GRN: 5.6% (-2.2) Conservative GAIN from Labour. That has been quite a good night for the Conservatives in what must be seen as a fairly dire general political scenario for past few months. There is still a core support out there despite the valiant attempt of the party to piss them all off! |
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