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Post by maxque on Nov 9, 2017 22:22:01 GMT
Seems there is significant chaos in Stubbington due to a main road leading in the ward being closed due to found WWII ordnance.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 9, 2017 22:35:17 GMT
A fairly politically savvy friend informs me that Labour have over a hundred people knocking up in Thamesfield. A future Labour PM (🤞) can confirm this. In my experience the scale of Labour knocking-up is in inverse proportion to its effectiveness. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 22:37:49 GMT
I think that was true up until the GE
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 22:38:36 GMT
A future Labour PM (🤞) can confirm this. In my experience the scale of Labour knocking-up is in inverse proportion to its effectiveness. Probably because they all stay in one group irrespective of number, so the more they are the less effective each individual becomes. EDIT: Whilst this was a joke the mathematical part of me is screaming because my joke implies that the more there are their average effectiveness tends towards 0, NOT that the more their are the less effective their campaign becomes. You're welcome everyone. |
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 22:43:55 GMT
I can assure you they won't all be in one group. Knockers-up in the Labour Party only go out in small groups. Was a joke, see my edit. Pretty sure most of us would kill for half the number of activists you lot can get out! |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 22:45:19 GMT
I can assure you they won't all be in one group. Knockers-up in the Labour Party only go out in small groups. In my experience the most effective size of group for knocking up or any other political activity that involves going to houses is one... Anything larger just reduces efficiency (but is needed for training or impressing voters and twitterati with the size of your army...) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 22:45:49 GMT
Someone on twitter says Labour expecting similar result in 2011
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 22:47:06 GMT
I can assure you they won't all be in one group. Knockers-up in the Labour Party only go out in small groups. In my experience the most effective size of group for knocking up or any other political activity that involves going to houses is one... Anything larger just reduces efficiency (but is needed for training or impressing voters and twitterati with the size of your army...) Always been taught that having more than one can come across as threatening. Besides, I hate having people interrupting the natural flow of the conversation, canvassing can be an art sometimes and having more than one often ruins it |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 9, 2017 22:48:04 GMT
Thamesfield turnout is 31.9%.
Reminder that Wandsworth is traditionally the first London borough to declare in Parliamentary elections.
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Post by Philip Davies on Nov 9, 2017 22:48:51 GMT
IIRC the Limestone Peak that Labour won in 1995 included the Hartington Upper Quarter parish and surrounded Buxton on three sides. Dove Holes was in a ward called Barmoor as Davıd Boothroyd told me 20 years ago! |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 9, 2017 22:57:25 GMT
In my experience the most effective size of group for knocking up or any other political activity that involves going to houses is one... Anything larger just reduces efficiency (but is needed for training or impressing voters and twitterati with the size of your army...) Always been taught that having more than one can come across as threatening. Besides, I hate having people interrupting the natural flow of the conversation, canvassing can be an art sometimes and having more than one often ruins it Well, personally I really hate this group canvassing idea.. You have one person who never knocks on a door, just hangs around with the canvass cards.. They tell you the names of the people at #42; by the time I get there I have forgotten them.. Then if I have to attract the attention of the group leader (typically either in conversation with a passer by or on their mobile) to give them the information. Then we realise someone is missing and spend ten minutes finding them.... Just give each person a few sheets and tell them which pub to meet in when they are done... |
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 23:03:24 GMT
On the contrary, I love holding the board. That way you get to boss people around. I've done it to some quite well-known people including Tessa Jowell & several present MPs. Running the board is different, i'm talking about having more than one person on the doorstep. If you've got a group of 4+ running the board basically becomes a necessity |
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Post by Zardoz on Nov 9, 2017 23:04:33 GMT
Always been taught that having more than one can come across as threatening. Besides, I hate having people interrupting the natural flow of the conversation, canvassing can be an art sometimes and having more than one often ruins it Well, personally I really hate this group canvassing idea.. You have one person who never knocks on a door, just hangs around with the canvass cards.. They tell you the names of the people at #42; by the time I get there I have forgotten them.. Then if I have to attract the attention of the group leader (typically either in conversation with a passer by or on their mobile) to give them the information. Then we realise someone is missing and spend ten minutes finding them.... Just give each person a few sheets and tell them which pub to meet in when they are done... I disagree, Andrew. I have always found sole canvassing to be soul-destroying and lonely - particularly in a weak area on a cold and rainy night. I've not done it for years because of that. I have always found group canvassing to be much more enjoyable and have got much more done as a result. I think that group canvassing is more motivating - even if one person is just directing others - and I think more gets done. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Nov 9, 2017 23:04:36 GMT
I’m very jealous you have enough people to think about a group canvass; even in June, with the influx of new members, the most we had on a canvassing session was nine!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 23:05:45 GMT
I think forgetting ones name isnt very important. Some people dont like to be reffered to by name and others dont like referring to people by their name. Ive never had a problem feeding back personally. Im not keen on the idea on going around with one sheet on ur own. A big part of canvassing is the support of ur team. Its really hard to canvass on ur own Ive found it can be a bit much.
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 23:07:42 GMT
I think forgetting ones name isnt very important. Some people dont like to be reffered to by name and others dont like referring to people by their name. Ive never had a problem feeding back personally. Im not keen on the idea on going around with one sheet on ur own. A big part of canvassing is the support of ur team. Its really hard to canvass on ur own Ive found it can be a bit much. The number of the times i've literally forgotten mid sentence and had to transition to Sir/Madam... |
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 9, 2017 23:12:53 GMT
I’m very jealous you have enough people to think about a group canvass; even in June, with the influx of new members, the most we had on a canvassing session was nine! which seat out of interest? Oh and @priceofdawn are you a labour canvasser? I never reference by name, it creeps me out enough when you pick up a phone and someone in a call centre says ‘hi ben’ I go for surname, as no name just makes you sound like a cold caller |
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Post by timmullen1 on Nov 9, 2017 23:14:09 GMT
I’m very jealous you have enough people to think about a group canvass; even in June, with the influx of new members, the most we had on a canvassing session was nine! which seat out of interest? Stoke South |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Nov 9, 2017 23:17:07 GMT
Well, personally I really hate this group canvassing idea.. You have one person who never knocks on a door, just hangs around with the canvass cards.. They tell you the names of the people at #42; by the time I get there I have forgotten them.. Then if I have to attract the attention of the group leader (typically either in conversation with a passer by or on their mobile) to give them the information. Then we realise someone is missing and spend ten minutes finding them.... Just give each person a few sheets and tell them which pub to meet in when they are done... I disagree, Andrew. I have always found sole canvassing to be soul-destroying and lonely - particularly in a weak area on a cold and rainy night. I've not done it for years because of that. I have always found group canvassing to be much more enjoyable and have got much more done as a result. I think that group canvassing is more motivating - even if one person is just directing others - and I think more gets done. Yes, I have to agree. I have a belief that the best way to get people involved in a party is to make the political activity as much fun and interesting as possible. Some branches seem to put a lot of effort into social events to keep members happy, which has it's place, but if I join (say) an AmDram group or cricket club, I want to act or play cricket and then maybe go for a pint after. I'd rather go out with a bunch of fellow-LDs and canvass, leaflet or whatever, with scope for a bit of a chat between houses and then maybe a drink after, than be asked to go out knocking on doors on my own for a couple of hours with some sort of social event - quite possibly dire - later on as "a reward for all your hard work". If someone is happier being the person with the cards or the smartphone (or being a lone wolf like andrew111) then that's OK, all those things are useful too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 23:21:35 GMT
Was that why u lost stoke south
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