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Post by marksenior on Dec 7, 2012 10:28:58 GMT
Vale White horse result
LD 577/549 Con 346/333
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Post by marksenior on Dec 7, 2012 10:39:10 GMT
The Littlehampton TC River ward result was Lib Dem gain from Conservative
LD 311 Lab 226 UKIP 116 Con 91
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 7, 2012 11:52:25 GMT
The full Sutton result was LD 1034 Con 402 Lab 289 UKIP 182 Green 32 LD 53.3% CON 20.7% LAB 14.9% UKIP 9.4% GREEN 1.7% |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 7, 2012 19:49:31 GMT
Shenfield result from Brentwood website: Elizabeth Clare COHEN (Liberal Democrat) 728 Stephen Edward MAY (The Conservative Party Candidate) 557 David WATT (UKIP) 119 Richard MILLWOOD (The Labour Party Candidate) 31 Liberal Democrats 50.7% -3.3% Conservatives 38.8% +0.1% UKIP 8.3% +8.3% Labour 2.2 -5.1% That seems an extraordinarily low vote for Labour - or is Shenfield far posher than I'd ever realised?  |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 7, 2012 19:51:37 GMT
Shenfield is extremely posh
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 7, 2012 21:20:25 GMT
According to the Whitehead ranking system (based on the 2001 census), Shenfield ranked 71 out of 8,839 wards in England & Wales. It ranked number 2 of 267 wards in Essex (only just behind neighbouring Hutton South) and number 8 of 1,118 in the Eastern region (Hutton South was number 7. Naturally the top 6 places in the region were all taken by Hertfordshire wards
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Post by listener on Dec 7, 2012 21:23:49 GMT
Windlesham (Lightwater East) in Surrey Heath
Con 346, Lab 81 - Con hold
Cambourne in South Cambridgeshire - 174/125/90 - three candidates with no description
Cropwell Bishop in Rushcliffe (Nottinghamshire) - 153/137/105 - three candidates with no description
Long Melford in Babergh (Suffolk) - 221/144/45 - three candidates with no description
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Post by tonygreaves on Dec 9, 2012 21:04:25 GMT
UKIP really are a useless set of twazaks in FPTP elections. Fortunately.
Tony Greaves
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 22:31:12 GMT
I should make a note of that word "twazaks." I might like to use it myself.
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Post by independentukip on Dec 9, 2012 23:33:27 GMT
If that is Parliamentary language I think it marginally illustrative of our national decline.
I wonder whether the large number of Liberal Democrat candidates who received fewer votes than their UKIP counterparts in the 2012 local elections, and also those candidates in the recent Parliamentary by-elections, agree with Lord Greaves.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 9, 2012 23:44:06 GMT
If that is Parliamentary language I think it marginally illustrative of our national decline. Well dont forget that Lord Greaves only sits in parliament because he was appointed. Nobody elected him to the position because he was a bit of a uselss twazak himself at FPTP parliamentary elections. Of course when Liberals do badly out of FPTP its all the fault of the system  |
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 10, 2012 9:42:47 GMT
If that is Parliamentary language I think it marginally illustrative of our national decline. Well dont forget that Lord Greaves only sits in parliament because he was appointed. Nobody elected him to the position because he was a bit of a uselss twazak himself at FPTP parliamentary elections. Of course when Liberals do badly out of FPTP its all the fault of the system As far as I understand a change in the electoral system is supported by UKIP. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 10, 2012 9:55:19 GMT
My understanding too. Your point?
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 10, 2012 10:53:34 GMT
My understanding too. Your point? That FPTP is unfit for purpose. |
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Post by stepney on Dec 10, 2012 11:12:44 GMT
My understanding too. Your point? That FPTP is unfit for purpose. A point with which I for one would disagree, but which nonetheless is irrelevant to whether UKIP are twazzocks or whether Tony Greaves is/the Lib Dems are an electoral failure. |
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Post by baloo on Dec 10, 2012 11:42:12 GMT
Of course FPTP has flaws, but so do all the other systems. Personally I think that the preferential systems are a complete joke and much more deeply flawed than FPTP. If we're going to change lets go to D'Hondt or something similar that actually gives proportional representation. Alternatively we could have first past the post constituency seats with regional top up seats. Unless and until there is a change UKIP have to adapt to FPTP in the way that the Lib Dems and Greens have. They're perfectly capable of doing it, it's strange that they never have.
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Post by marksenior on Dec 10, 2012 12:36:28 GMT
If that is Parliamentary language I think it marginally illustrative of our national decline. I wonder whether the large number of Liberal Democrat candidates who received fewer votes than their UKIP counterparts in the 2012 local elections, and also those candidates in the recent Parliamentary by-elections, agree with Lord Greaves. Any look at the 2012 local election results will quickly show that in most places the vast majority of Lib Dems finished in front of UKIP in many cases not even having to face a UKIP opponent . |
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 10, 2012 12:38:13 GMT
Just how many local authorities do UKIP run?
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Post by greatkingrat on Dec 10, 2012 12:50:08 GMT
Ramsey Town Council :-)
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Post by listener on Dec 11, 2012 12:37:23 GMT
Great Aycliffe (Neville) - Lab 90, Ind 73 - Lab gain from Ind
Great Aycliffe Town Council is now Lab 20, Independent 6, Greater Aycliffe Independent Party 4
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