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Post by andrewteale on Oct 12, 2017 23:12:04 GMT
Tamworth is apparently counting tomorrow at 2pm.
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Post by Sharon on Oct 12, 2017 23:12:46 GMT
Is Tamworth counting tonight? No:
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Oct 12, 2017 23:14:01 GMT
Some evidence for my theory that the demise of UKIP is good news for the LDs Though taking the general point, not quite sure that is the case here. Most of our increase, IMO, came direct from the Tories. I'd prefer that tbh, I'd be worried of we were simply picking up protest voters who are against everyone and don't care if they vote for us, UKIP or Green. But I don't mean just direct transfers from UKIP, I mean a little bit of just getting ourselves one level higher in the final table (with resulting better profile) but mainly a general climate of "the way the wind is blowing". Strong UKIP sends a signal that the wind is in the sails of people to the right of the Tories, demoralising our potential voters into staying at home, or causing them to vote Labour to keep Conservatives/UKIP out, or even Conservative to keep UKIP out.
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Post by Robert Waller on Oct 12, 2017 23:14:31 GMT
Not sure why ... Tamworth is usually one of the very quickest to declare results on a regular May local election night.
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Post by markgoodair on Oct 12, 2017 23:14:51 GMT
Stanley & Outwood Labour 1353 51.0% Conservative 847 31.9% Lib Dem 165 6.2% Yorkshire 153 5.8% UKIP 136 5.1%
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Post by maxque on Oct 12, 2017 23:19:55 GMT
Stanley & Outwood Labour 1353 51.0% Conservative 847 31.9% Lib Dem 165 6.2% Yorkshire 153 5.8% UKIP 136 5.1% Changes on 2016: Lab +2.4 Con +7.3 LD +2.3 UKIP -16.4
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Post by maxque on Oct 12, 2017 23:20:42 GMT
So, Inverurie and Tamworth tomorrow, and no detailed results from Wyre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 23:24:24 GMT
Stanley & Outwood Labour 1353 51.0% Conservative 847 31.9% Lib Dem 165 6.2% Yorkshire 153 5.8% UKIP 136 5.1% Changes on 2016: Lab +2.4 Con +7.3 LD +2.3 UKIP -16.4 So another Labour councillor who will do nothing and who did very little when he was councillor for Horbury & Sth Ossett, replaces and Labour councillor who who not only didn't do anything but who couldn't even be arsed to turn up for six months whilst claiming several thousand in tax payers cash. The second Labour councillor for Stanley who lives three miles away in Horbury.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 12, 2017 23:25:39 GMT
Are the grapes sourer in Outwood than in Wakefield West?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 23:26:22 GMT
Are the grapes sourer in Outwood than in Wakefield West? Not at all....I just wonder at the mentality
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Post by lbarnes on Oct 12, 2017 23:30:54 GMT
Are the grapes sourer in Outwood than in Wakefield West? Not at all....I just wonder at the mentality It's the will of the people, AC. Suck it up.
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Post by lbarnes on Oct 12, 2017 23:39:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 23:45:48 GMT
Not at all....I just wonder at the mentality It's the will of the people, AC. Suck it up. Yep.....there is no arguing about that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 6:33:39 GMT
Barnaby! You posted the Hucknall North result in the Ashfield thread when Hucknall is in Sherwood.
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Post by YL on Oct 13, 2017 6:50:15 GMT
Lab 48.6% (+5.3) LD 26.6% (+21.0) Con 16.3% (-0.9) UKIP 6.3% (-19.2) Grn 2.2% (-3.1) Some evidence for my theory that the demise of UKIP is good news for the LDs It's certainly likely to be in Sheffield, where it gives the Lib Dems an opportunity to re-establish themselves as the not-Labour option in the east and north of the city. They were never likely to win Beighton, which wasn't a ward where they'd challenged before, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Lib Dems winning the Ecclesfield and Stocksbridge wards again in the next few years. ... and I think that is a poor result for the Tories. As I said before, this was a ward where they'd actually been not that far behind in the past, coming ahead of the Lib Dems in 2008 when it definitely was the Lib Dems who were the not-Labour option almost everywhere in the city.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 7:41:55 GMT
Some evidence for my theory that the demise of UKIP is good news for the LDs It's certainly likely to be in Sheffield, where it gives the Lib Dems an opportunity to re-establish themselves as the not-Labour option in the east and north of the city. They were never likely to win Beighton, which wasn't a ward where they'd challenged before, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Lib Dems winning the Ecclesfield and Stocksbridge wards again in the next few years. ... and I think that is a poor result for the Tories. As I said before, this was a ward where they'd actually been not that far behind in the past, coming ahead of the Lib Dems in 2008 when it definitely was the Lib Dems who were the not-Labour option almost everywhere in the city. I believe the Conservatives would win it if it was in NE Derbyshire.
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Post by froome on Oct 13, 2017 8:03:13 GMT
Demise of UKIP doesn't seem to have done the Lib Dems any good in Warrington... No. Boo! A good result for jigger, this one. Still, a relatively small shift either way compared to Beighton. Getting over 15% keeps us in the game and UKIP getting less than 5% makes them start to look out of it. Our game is three-party politics [/b], not two-parry or four-party... [/quote] Interesting to hear that from someone living in Stroud!
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 13, 2017 8:03:23 GMT
Lab 48.6% (+5.3) LD 26.6% (+21.0) Con 16.3% (-0.9) UKIP 6.3% (-19.2) Grn 2.2% (-3.1) Some evidence for my theory that the demise of UKIP is good news for the LDs Yes. You have re-inherited the dustbin vote from UKIP, just as they did from you. Let's face it, this cannot be seen as a positive vote for LD politics and Remain, it is merely a move of the 'I don't like Labour and Conservatives' to a new home. The politics of UKIP and the LDs are so different that the votes have nothing at all to do with policies!
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 13, 2017 8:10:29 GMT
The second Labour councillor for Stanley who lives three miles away in Horbury. Oh come on, it's a 15 minute car drive away - less if you take the M1 at a non busy time. Horbury and Stanley are hardly quinoa and mushy peas either. I think you know this anyway and may be being a tad partisan. Especially as your own party have para shoots going off all over W Yorkshire. More Para Handy and Grouse Shoots.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 8:23:23 GMT
Barnaby! You posted the Hucknall North result in the Ashfield thread when Hucknall is in Sherwood. Not guilty. No-one has posted anything in the Ashfield thread. On UKPR. Apologies was Lancs observer!
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