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Post by Foggy on Jun 20, 2017 20:45:48 GMT
The county borders on the above map are factually and morally wrong. That's because they still influenced the last review, and because that map (as it states in the bottom corner) is adapted from David Boothroyd's map of the previous review which was entirely based on them. Neither the zombie review nor the last completed review should be treating Humberside, 'Avon' or Hereford & Worcester as counties, though. |
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Post by Adrian on Jun 20, 2017 21:07:22 GMT
That's because they still influenced the last review, and because that map (as it states in the bottom corner) is adapted from David Boothroyd's map of the previous review which was entirely based on them. Neither the zombie review nor the last completed review should be treating Humberside, 'Avon' or Hereford & Worcester as counties, though. Or Cleveland, for that matter. Avon has been abandoned as a unit. It's unreasonable to use small counties such as Herefordshire or Rutland as units. And it's convenient to use Humberside as a unit so long as the regional boundary cuts across traditional Lincolnshire. But none of this matters that much, and there's no need to get your knickers in a twist about David's map. My senses would be much more offended by the sight of a correct modern admin map of the UK with its abominations like "Cheshire West and Chester" and "Central Bedfordshire". |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 20, 2017 21:32:37 GMT
Neither the zombie review nor the last completed review should be treating Humberside, 'Avon' or Hereford & Worcester as counties, though. Or Cleveland, for that matter. Avon has been abandoned as a unit. It's unreasonable to use small counties such as Herefordshire or Rutland as units. And it's convenient to use Humberside as a unit so long as the regional boundary cuts across traditional Lincolnshire. But none of this matters that much, and there's no need to get your knickers in a twist about David's map. My senses would be much more offended by the sight of a correct modern admin map of the UK with its abominations like "Cheshire West and Chester" and "Central Bedfordshire". Good point. The last completed review treated Herefordshire as a separate review area and allocated it two seats. That's a fair point about Rutland. Yes, the regional border is also indefensible in the Lincolnshire/East Riding area. I wasn't having a go at David, but nobody has yet provided an explanation for the continued demarcation of 'Avon' on the map outlines. Yeah, I'd be triggered by the travesty of the UAs that currently cover the lieutenancies of Bedfordshire, Berkshire and Cheshire too. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 20, 2017 21:36:24 GMT
The 2007 review was the first to be conducted after the big changes in local government in the 1990s (the creation of unitary authorities and abolition of the Heath artificial counties). If you want to know which areas were considered 'counties', have a look at the list in the Constituencies Order: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/1681/schedule/made |
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Post by Foggy on Jun 20, 2017 23:05:17 GMT
The 2007 review was the first to be conducted after the big changes in local government in the 1990s (the creation of unitary authorities and abolition of the Heath artificial counties). If you want to know which areas were considered 'counties', have a look at the list in the Constituencies Order: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/1681/schedule/madeIt treats Bristol, N Somerset, BANES, S Glos, the Somerset CC area and the Gloucestershire CC area as all completely separate from one another, but in other ceremonial counties it considers them a whole area but simply makes a point of mentioning any UAs in the sub-heading (e.g. Essex, Thurrock and Southend-on-Sea). That doesn't explain to any satisfactory degree why 'Avon' should still appear on a blank map of the 2010 boundaries. |
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Post by afleitch on Jun 22, 2017 13:56:33 GMT
I did this for 2015. Wanted to show second place candidates in close contests. Worth updating?  |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 22, 2017 21:53:23 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 23, 2017 20:32:53 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 23, 2017 20:33:09 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 23, 2017 20:33:27 GMT
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 23, 2017 20:34:57 GMT
Minor inconsistencies wrt rounding are quite likely but that's always an issue with maps of course. You can see bigger versions of all of them if you but right click.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 23, 2017 21:13:16 GMT
Excellent stuff Sib, but if I'm going to be really pernickety (and let's face it, if anyone will be, I will) I'll observe that the Labour map makes it clear they had no candidate in Buckingham, whereas on the Lib Dem map it appears they had a deposit-losing candidate there and in Brighton Pavilion and Skipton & Ripon.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 23, 2017 23:17:15 GMT
Maps with the %-gains&losses of LD, UKIP, GP, Nat. (Con&Lab were made by Pete) would be fine.
"Mine" (publidhed by the BBC, see page1) have insufficiently only 5%-grades.
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Post by minionofmidas on Jun 24, 2017 12:44:33 GMT
That's because they still influenced the last review, and because that map (as it states in the bottom corner) is adapted from David Boothroyd's map of the previous review which was entirely based on them. Neither the zombie review nor the last completed review should be treating Humberside, 'Avon' or Hereford & Worcester as counties, though. But it's not a map of that. (Humberside will be used, de facto, and inevitably, because of the thing about using the official regions.) Anyways, it's just a good clean map off the internet that Al used to use about 2010 and that I found lying around on my harddrive. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jun 24, 2017 12:46:13 GMT
Excellent stuff Sib, but if I'm going to be really pernickety (and let's face it, if anyone will be, I will) I'll observe that the Labour map makes it clear they had no candidate in Buckingham, whereas on the Lib Dem map it appears they had a deposit-losing candidate there and in Brighton Pavilion and Skipton & Ripon. Well strictly speaking his map doesn't make the first of these points clear at all. It's just that Labour didn't fail to cross 5% anywhere else, so it's a unique shade.  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 11, 2017 23:36:18 GMT
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Jul 11, 2017 23:37:35 GMT
It is good* to see how utterly boned both the UUP and the SDLP are.
*NARRATOR: It was not good.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 11, 2017 23:41:55 GMT
You can really smell the cow shit on the UUP map can't you...
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Jul 11, 2017 23:49:23 GMT
You can really smell the cow shit on the UUP map can't you... Not just the cow shit, but the church bake sale too. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 11, 2017 23:56:24 GMT
Your Presbyterian contempt for Irish Anglicanism is showing!
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