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Wakefield
Apr 28, 2024 9:15:16 GMT
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Post by thejedi on Apr 28, 2024 9:15:16 GMT
If the results are the same as last year, then amazingly the balance of opposition power could rest with the only independent left in the chamber and that would be Councillor Sharp. Goodness me… the loosest of loose cannons. Also, despite what people think of the Tories nationally, there is no way that having 56 out of 63 Labour Councillors in the chamber, is going to benefit the people of Wakefield.
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 28, 2024 10:33:27 GMT
But these things sometimes happen, and if Labour *are* unimpressive locally they are even more likely to start dropping several seats from 2026 onwards.
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Post by davidh on Apr 29, 2024 9:28:45 GMT
But these things sometimes happen, and if Labour *are* unimpressive locally they are even more likely to start dropping several seats from 2026 onwards. They are unimpressive, and an all-out election on revised boundaries will maximise the opportunity for other parties. Whether those other parties includes the Tories is another matter, given their current state both locally and nationally, neither of which is guaranteed to improve much in the next two years, even allowing for a fall in Labour popularity.
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Post by Ron Swanson on Apr 29, 2024 19:43:04 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up.
Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary...
On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material...
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Post by carolus on Apr 29, 2024 19:47:29 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary...
On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... Surely the distinction between Metropolitan Boroughs and Unitary Authorities is very slim indeed; why would it affect the competitiveness?
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Wakefield
Apr 29, 2024 22:32:00 GMT
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 29, 2024 22:32:00 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... His bar chart is an absolute disgrace. If the Labour Party had any decency they should expell him for this.
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Post by thejedi on Apr 29, 2024 22:56:20 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... His bar chart is an absolute disgrace. If the Labour Party had any decency they should expell him for this. An upload of it by any chance?
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 30, 2024 9:53:02 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... The boundary changes are intended to have the same number of councillors, so changes likely won't be massive. Two Wakefield wards are undersized at the moment and a couple in the east of the district are oversized, but everything else could theoretically stay unchanged.
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 30, 2024 10:11:37 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... The boundary changes are intended to have the same number of councillors, so changes likely won't be massive. Two Wakefield wards are undersized at the moment and a couple in the east of the district are oversized, but everything else could theoretically stay unchanged. There is a massive house building program along Neil Fox Way (Wakefield East bypass) with hundreds of new houses being built there.
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Wakefield
Apr 30, 2024 10:13:13 GMT
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Post by thejedi on Apr 30, 2024 10:13:13 GMT
Just taking a look at the Knottingley group on Facebook. Theo seems to be providing some entertaining on there. It’s like going back 3 years when Kerron Cross was the Labour candidate there. 😀
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Post by batman on Apr 30, 2024 10:25:54 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... His bar chart is an absolute disgrace. If the Labour Party had any decency they should expell him for this. I'm sorry but when the Lib Dems decide to put a stop to their misleading bar charts then they can start lecturing the rest of us. I think this qualifies as chutzpah
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 30, 2024 10:38:45 GMT
The boundary changes are intended to have the same number of councillors, so changes likely won't be massive. Two Wakefield wards are undersized at the moment and a couple in the east of the district are oversized, but everything else could theoretically stay unchanged. There is a massive house building program along Neil Fox Way (Wakefield East bypass) with hundreds of new houses being built there. That may be the case, but I'm basing this off the electorate figures that the LGBCE is going to use for the new wards, and those have Wakefield South and Wakefield West 12% below average electorate in 2029, with Wakefield East and Wakefield North being 5% and 1% below average (because every ward in the district is projected to gain at least 1000 electors between 2023 and 2029 except Wakefield West). So the former two will need to gain electors and there's only limited room to take them from the latter two.
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Post by borisminor on Apr 30, 2024 11:02:00 GMT
This appears to be the leaflet which I found on a Knottingley Facebook group. He seems to be comparing Knottingley 2023 with 2019 and using that as evidence he is gaining ground.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 30, 2024 11:07:23 GMT
This appears to be the leaflet which I found on a Knottingley Facebook group. He seems to be comparing Knottingley 2023 with 2019 and using that as evidence he is gaining ground. In principle a fair enough comparison BUT the scale looks ... dodgy.
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Post by markgoodair on Apr 30, 2024 11:42:15 GMT
This appears to be the leaflet which I found on a Knottingley Facebook group. He seems to be comparing Knottingley 2023 with 2019 and using that as evidence he is gaining ground. Meanwhile in 2023 the Labour vote fell by 10% compared with the previous year.
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 30, 2024 11:52:18 GMT
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 30, 2024 12:17:54 GMT
Hopefully the boundary changes (I've not seen any proposals) will lead to some more competitive wards being drawn up. Otherwise I see little potential for change, unless Wakefield went unitary... On a separate note, I've seen a copy of Theo Biddle's leaflet, with a fake bar chart on with some incorrect figures... I thought we were supposed to be honest on our election material... His bar chart is an absolute disgrace. If the Labour Party had any decency they should expell him for this. "Senior LibDem's FURY over bar chart"
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Post by davidh on Apr 30, 2024 13:14:39 GMT
This appears to be the leaflet which I found on a Knottingley Facebook group. He seems to be comparing Knottingley 2023 with 2019 and using that as evidence he is gaining ground. Meanwhile in 2023 the Labour vote fell by 10% compared with the previous year. The Lib Dems are free to put out their own leaflets with their own bar charts and own statistics if they like. I believe they are familiar with the concept. Frankly, it's a lot less dodgy than the frequent Lib Dem claim "X can't win here", which as an assertion of an absolute - and, as such, false. I do find the idea that Biddle should be expelled for making graphics the Lib Dems find inconvenient hilarious though.
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European Lefty
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 30, 2024 13:21:58 GMT
At least he's comparing like for like as well rather than common LD trick of using results from elections to an entirely different level of government.
I would find LD criticism of other parties' bar charts outrageous, but I'm too busy laughing
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Post by Ron Swanson on May 1, 2024 20:07:48 GMT
Any last minute predictions folks…
Lib Dems to win Knottingley Labour to win everything else…
Potential upsets in Airedale & Wrenthorpe…?
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