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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 26, 2017 21:29:59 GMT
Principles. UKIP. Other than departing the EU these principles would be ... ? (Serious question; not a dig.)
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 26, 2017 21:31:02 GMT
Through the Electoral Reform Society? ERS Services? The commercial arm of the Society which organises ballots for trades unions etc.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 26, 2017 21:34:06 GMT
There is, of course, a problem with writing to "every house".
A house does not equal an elector.
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Post by Richard Allen on Mar 26, 2017 23:24:31 GMT
Obviously UKIP have nothing better to do than pursue a petty grudge.
Also I thought they were in financial difficulty, isn't this stunt a waste of money?
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Post by johnloony on Mar 27, 2017 4:22:34 GMT
Obviously UKIP have nothing better to do than pursue a petty grudge. Also I thought they were in financial difficulty, isn't this stunt a waste of money? Of course it is. Would you expect the UKIP not to waste money on fanciful ego-trips?
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Post by neilm on Mar 27, 2017 5:24:14 GMT
You're a failed parliamentary candidate with a PhD in an obscure and irrelevant subject which fills his days doing bit part teaching because he is otherwise unemployable. What gives you the standing to criticise someone else's job? I'll tell you what gives hedgehog the standing to pass comment on the nature of A&E staffing: he's a taxpayer who's paying for it. So am I. And we're also the ones who have subsidised your expensive and seemingly pointless education. I disagree with his position but he's just as able to pass comment on it as anyone else. Neil, I would recommend checking who funded my Ph. D. (I would recommend checking whether I actually finished it.) I would recommend checking what my actual employment is. I think what I'm saying is that you're a cunt, but that's a bit of a dog bites man story. You get to complain about how much hospital staff get paid. It's a pretty pointless exercise, but you're perfectly entitled to it. You really don't get to criticise the motivation of said staff. If you want to criticise the motivation of people who work unsociable hours in frequently unpleasant conditions, the fact you made an infinitesimal contribution to their salaries doesn't really justify fighting words. Also, you're a cunt. Just so we're clear. I really don't care whether you've finished your PhD or not. I also don't particularly care about what hospital staff get paid and haven't even really thought about it until now. What I'm bothered about is you dismissing someone's viewpoint on the basis of their job. You wouldn't take the position that someone's view was invalid because of their race or gender. This is exactly the same thing. It is astounding that a man who had ambitions to be a public face of the Labour Party is so dismissive of the view of a working person just because you see their role as somehow beneath you. You need to take a bloody good look at yourself and your values.
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Post by right on Mar 27, 2017 18:24:58 GMT
Obviously UKIP have nothing better to do than pursue a petty grudge. Also I thought they were in financial difficulty, isn't this stunt a waste of money? Of course it is. Would you expect the UKIP not to waste money on fanciful ego-trips? Arron Bankrolled?
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Post by janwhitby on Mar 29, 2017 21:13:12 GMT
blah blah blah I think what I'm saying is that you're a cunt, but that's a bit of a dog bites man story. .............. blah blah blah Also, you're a cunt. Just so we're clear. EAL, do you any ongoing parliamentary ambitions? If EAL couldn't last a PHD (all of 3 years wasting who's money in funding?) he's hardly going to be considered parliamentary material. Unless EAL joins UKIP with Nuttal? What was the research on PHD?
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 29, 2017 21:22:38 GMT
3 years full time and fully funded is just about possible for a natural science or library based PhD. Do qualitative research and self funding means part time and a lot of hard work. I ended up living some very curious hours particularly in the writing up stage as I found it far easier to write overnight. And afraid all its brought me is suspicion. First you have to explain that it's not that sort of doctor, and then you meet the British suspicion towards education which isn't directly 'practical' and encourages questioning and scepticism. I don't regret doing it though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 21:38:59 GMT
EAL, do you any ongoing parliamentary ambitions? If EAL couldn't last a PHD (all of 3 years wasting who's money in funding?) he's hardly going to be considered parliamentary material. Unless EAL joins UKIP with Nuttal? What was the research on PHD? Erm. What exactly qualifies you to comment on what it takes to get a PhD? If it's that you have one, I'd recommend looking up whose and who's. If not, before mocking someone for the progress of their work, consider banging your head against a wall and calling yourself stupid for a few years to get a taste of the process. Great fun. Nothing compares. Really.
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Post by Sibboleth on Mar 29, 2017 22:28:36 GMT
PhD's are of course notoriously easy to complete Also, fwiw, engaging in spiteful personal attacks on internet forums against members you don't even know at all is very much not cool, so please don't do it again.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 29, 2017 23:00:07 GMT
I'd have loved to have done my masters and doctorate, and it is to my lingering regret that I did not.
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Post by neilm on Mar 29, 2017 23:03:32 GMT
3 years full time and fully funded is just about possible for a natural science or library based PhD. Do qualitative research and self funding means part time and a lot of hard work. I ended up living some very curious hours particularly in the writing up stage as I found it far easier to write overnight. And afraid all its brought me is suspicion. First you have to explain that it's not that sort of doctor, and then you meet the British suspicion towards education which isn't directly 'practical' and encourages questioning and scepticism. I don't regret doing it though. Qualitative or quantitative?
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Post by neilm on Mar 29, 2017 23:17:04 GMT
I'm currently doing an MBA. I've not thought about a doctorate before (my mother has two and I've got several friends with assorted varieties of doctorate and frankly its never interested me) but I'm contemplating moving onto a DBA.
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Post by John Chanin on Mar 30, 2017 6:18:20 GMT
3 years full time and fully funded is just about possible for a natural science or library based PhD. Do qualitative research and self funding means part time and a lot of hard work. I ended up living some very curious hours particularly in the writing up stage as I found it far easier to write overnight. And afraid all its brought me is suspicion. First you have to explain that it's not that sort of doctor, and then you meet the British suspicion towards education which isn't directly 'practical' and encourages questioning and scepticism. I don't regret doing it though. It took one of my friends 7 years including 18 months fieldwork overseas. I don't know anyone who completed a PhD in 3 years, even scientists. It's bloody hard work, which is why I decided not to do it, despite being "3-year funded" and went and earned a living instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:42:35 GMT
What I find most amusing is the way in which people who aren't very familiar with universities often struggle to work our whether I'm a student or a lecturer. Saying that I'm a PhD student and saying that I teach at the University of St Andrews tend to provoke rather different reactions, even though both are true and directly connected.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 7:47:23 GMT
3 years full time and fully funded is just about possible for a natural science or library based PhD. Do qualitative research and self funding means part time and a lot of hard work. I ended up living some very curious hours particularly in the writing up stage as I found it far easier to write overnight. And afraid all its brought me is suspicion. First you have to explain that it's not that sort of doctor, and then you meet the British suspicion towards education which isn't directly 'practical' and encourages questioning and scepticism. I don't regret doing it though. It took one of my friends 7 years including 18 months fieldwork overseas. I don't know anyone who completed a PhD in 3 years, even scientists. It's bloody hard work, which is why I decided not to do it, despite being "3-year funded" and went and earned a living instead. I did it in 2 years 10 months. If you are a scientist and get lucky with your project sub 3 is achievable. I know someone who did a sub 2 in chemistry (which stemmed from an undergraduate project). Admittedly that person then did a PhD in maths with no mathematical background and got a faculty position at Oxford before he was 30, so he's a bjt of an outlier.
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 30, 2017 8:24:03 GMT
My son did his inside 3 (Oxford,so DPhil,not Ph.D) and got married in his Oxford college half way through. Nearly 30 years ago now,though.Oh god I do feel old when talking to you lot..
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Post by yellowperil on Mar 30, 2017 8:46:48 GMT
btw, myself I never got beyond the stage of discussing possible topics with a potential supervisor, then I found myself having to choose between going ahead or accepting offered promotion.. no contest, really, but I still admire those of you who stuck it out. Now its my granddaughter who is contemplating her subject for a D.Phil....
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 30, 2017 9:36:17 GMT
3 years full time and fully funded is just about possible for a natural science or library based PhD. Do qualitative research and self funding means part time and a lot of hard work. I ended up living some very curious hours particularly in the writing up stage as I found it far easier to write overnight. And afraid all its brought me is suspicion. First you have to explain that it's not that sort of doctor, and then you meet the British suspicion towards education which isn't directly 'practical' and encourages questioning and scepticism. I don't regret doing it though. Qualitative or quantitative? Qualitative. 52 depth interviews - and unstructured as well, so transcription and analysis was time consuming!
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