msc
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Post by msc on Nov 4, 2019 17:36:11 GMT
Reminded of this poll a month out from the previous election for some reason. Mostly the +4 to Labour which suggests an even worse poll last month I missed.
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kefin
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Post by kefin on Nov 5, 2019 9:45:40 GMT
Lab 29 Cons 28 BXP 15 LD 12 PC 12 Greens 3 Others 1 Lab up 4, LD down 4, Tories and BXP swap a point. Only a poll of course. But that's gotta hurt the self styled party of Wales ( even though they aren't bothering to stand in all Welsh seats ) and the not so resurgent Lib Dems under Miss sixth form whiney face. Both less popular than the Brexit Party in Wales. The anti democracy regressive alliance clearly need to pull their socks up.
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jamie
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Post by jamie on Nov 5, 2019 11:39:26 GMT
For all the talk of Plaid doing well, they are 1.5% up on 2017, and during the 2017 campaign they lost the same amount over the campaign!
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Nov 7, 2019 10:26:52 GMT
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kefin
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Post by kefin on Nov 7, 2019 11:24:26 GMT
As I have pointed out on occasion to the, I would presume to be now redundant and disappointed not so much party of Wales representatives and campaign team in the Vale of Glamorgan, trooping the same couple of thousand people up and down Wales and holding a street march here and there whilst pretending that there's an upswell in demand for Welsh independence isn't the same as there actually being an upswell in demands for independence......which there isn't of course.
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cibwr
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Post by cibwr on Nov 8, 2019 11:48:01 GMT
the evidence I am afraid is against you Kefin here. Hence the polling evidence.
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mondialito
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Post by mondialito on Nov 25, 2019 12:40:47 GMT
New poll incoming.
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Post by andrewp on Nov 25, 2019 12:42:53 GMT
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Post by lancastrian on Nov 25, 2019 12:52:53 GMT
The ramping of these Welsh polls is tedious.
What poll would prompt that reaction anyway - polls have already had Tory leads in Wales this year, Lib Dem or Plaid surge seems unlikely, so big swing to Labour? Or maybe just nothing at all, despite the talk.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 13:11:41 GMT
we had this last time when Labour overtook the Tories in Wales turning a 6 point Tory lead into a 7 point labour one if I remember correctly. We already have a labour lead so maybe a reversion. I'm expecting both to go up something like Lab 32 Con 34. But that wouldn't be very interesting. This will be first poll since Brexit stood down in Tory seats like Vale of Glamorgan, Brecon, etc. will be interesting to see the affect.
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Post by carolus on Nov 25, 2019 13:12:35 GMT
The ramping of these Welsh polls is tedious. What poll would prompt that reaction anyway - polls have already had Tory leads in Wales this year, Lib Dem or Plaid surge seems unlikely, so big swing to Labour? Or maybe just nothing at all, despite the talk. The last one had BXP 15, so I assume they will be right down this time. My guess would be there'll be a con boost as a result, but who knows?
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Nov 25, 2019 13:26:13 GMT
The ramping of these Welsh polls is tedious. What poll would prompt that reaction anyway - polls have already had Tory leads in Wales this year, Lib Dem or Plaid surge seems unlikely, so big swing to Labour? Or maybe just nothing at all, despite the talk. The last one had BXP 15, so I assume they will be right down this time. My guess would be there'll be a con boost as a result, but who knows? I would guess Con up a lot Lab up slightly LD down slighty BXP down a lot
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jamie
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Post by jamie on Nov 25, 2019 13:56:54 GMT
He does this every. fucking. time.
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johng
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Post by johng on Nov 25, 2019 15:47:50 GMT
He really does do it every time. It's beyond tedious and takes all meaning out of what he says.
Based on the UK Yougov polls, it's very likely to Conservatives will be ahead by a fair margin. As stated above, the BXP got 15% in the last poll and that will have collapsed and gone somewhere.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Nov 25, 2019 16:11:13 GMT
Either that or his crying wolf is justified, and somehow Labour are doing better than expected. Either way, he's annoying.
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Post by formerfifer on Nov 25, 2019 17:01:09 GMT
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Post by thirdchill on Nov 25, 2019 17:02:27 GMT
It looks as if that remain 'alliance' is benefiting labour.
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Post by curiousliberal on Nov 25, 2019 17:03:55 GMT
The Greens seemed to have been resisting the squeeze pretty well until recently, albeit from a lower base and an earlier decline in the summer and September.
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Nov 25, 2019 17:06:36 GMT
It maybe me misremembering, but did the campaign movement towards Labour initially show in Wales in 2017?
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Post by lancastrian on Nov 25, 2019 17:07:10 GMT
Labour +9... It is 2017 all over again
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