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Post by mattb on May 2, 2024 21:47:31 GMT
In an email circulated to all cllrs at 22.00 this eve: Three Rivers cllr Ian Morris (Con, Carpenders Park) has resigned from the Conservatives and will sit as an independent councillor.
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Post by ricmk on May 3, 2024 15:15:22 GMT
Jonathan Nunn (Con, West Northants) has "resigned" the Conservative whip after pressure from Andrea Leadsom, Pinder Chauhan and others, following the domestic violence allegations against him.
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Post by carolus on May 4, 2024 12:35:58 GMT
Isle of Wight, Nettlestone & Seaview (2025). David Adams, Empowering Islanders to Independent
King's Lynn & West Norfolk, South & West Lynn (2027). Charles Joyce, Labour to Independent Member
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Post by batman on May 4, 2024 19:52:39 GMT
As reported elsewhere, Trish Smith (Leeds MBC, Pudsey), Conservative -> Independent.
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Post by r34t on May 4, 2024 19:55:42 GMT
So, when do we see the first ‘elected May 24’ defection ? Any guesses.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 20:03:53 GMT
So, when do we see the first ‘elected May 24’ defection ? Any guesses. Quite soon - I reckon quite a lot of the pro-Palestine independents will soon return to the previous home - Labour.
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Post by r34t on May 4, 2024 20:06:47 GMT
So, when do we see the first ‘elected May 24’ defection ? Any guesses. Quite soon - I reckon quite a lot of the pro-Palestine independents will soon return to the previous home - Labour. I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 20:09:44 GMT
Quite soon - I reckon quite a lot of the pro-Palestine independents will soon return to the previous home - Labour. I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party.
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 4, 2024 20:11:33 GMT
Quite soon - I reckon quite a lot of the pro-Palestine independents will soon return to the previous home - Labour. I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. Well, the local candidates in Blackburn did not accuse the local Labour Party councillors of complicity genocide, they left that to George and Mr Murray. There are a lot of familial connections in the area. I suspect, as in Bradford after the byelection (and after last Thursday), defections to Labour will happen. Those who don't will lose their seats.
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Post by finsobruce on May 4, 2024 20:12:26 GMT
I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. Well i suspect a bit of both in certain cases.
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Post by r34t on May 4, 2024 20:15:46 GMT
I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. No. Locally it was personal & I hear our experience is typical. Because the Labour Group wouldn't support a full council debate, instead signing an all-party statement condemning violence & calling for a ceasefire (which I organised) we have 'blood on our hands' & are 'complicit in genocide'.
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Post by European Lefty on May 4, 2024 20:17:03 GMT
I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. That's a hair not many in Labour will split (Accidentally quoted wrong post last time)
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Post by gibbon on May 4, 2024 20:18:15 GMT
Will the Labour Party allow them bak and if so on what conditions? Why should they be allowed to be endorsed Labour Party candidates and have their election expenses paid by the Labour Party?
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Post by batman on May 4, 2024 20:55:40 GMT
I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. Well, the local candidates in Blackburn did not accuse the local Labour Party councillors of complicity genocide, they left that to George and Mr Murray. There are a lot of familial connections in the area. I suspect, as in Bradford after the byelection (and after last Thursday), defections to Labour will happen. Those who don't will lose their seats. it takes two to tango. I would hope that any defections or redefections to Labour are scrutinised very carefully before being allowed.
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Post by CatholicLeft on May 4, 2024 21:32:11 GMT
Well, the local candidates in Blackburn did not accuse the local Labour Party councillors of complicity genocide, they left that to George and Mr Murray. There are a lot of familial connections in the area. I suspect, as in Bradford after the byelection (and after last Thursday), defections to Labour will happen. Those who don't will lose their seats. it takes two to tango. I would hope that any defections or redefections to Labour are scrutinised very carefully before being allowed. Absolutely.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 22:30:14 GMT
Well, the local candidates in Blackburn did not accuse the local Labour Party councillors of complicity genocide, they left that to George and Mr Murray. There are a lot of familial connections in the area. I suspect, as in Bradford after the byelection (and after last Thursday), defections to Labour will happen. Those who don't will lose their seats. it takes two to tango. I would hope that any defections or redefections to Labour are scrutinised very carefully before being allowed. Fair comment.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 22:31:46 GMT
I rather doubt that. They may wish to, but way too much bad blood for that to happen. You can’t accuse people of complicity in genocide one minute & want to be their best mate next. Well, the local candidates in Blackburn did not accuse the local Labour Party councillors of complicity genocide, they left that to George and Mr Murray. There are a lot of familial connections in the area. I suspect, as in Bradford after the byelection (and after last Thursday), defections to Labour will happen. Those who don't will lose their seats. I suspect that you are right.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 22:33:28 GMT
They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. Well i suspect a bit of both in certain cases. Perhaps there's some acrimony over undermining the local party in these elections, but I'm sure they'll be let back if there's a pressing need like taking/keeping control of a council, certainly.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 22:35:24 GMT
They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. No. Locally it was personal & I hear our experience is typical. Because the Labour Group wouldn't support a full council debate, instead signing an all-party statement condemning violence & calling for a ceasefire (which I organised) we have 'blood on our hands' & are 'complicit in genocide'. I don't know where you live, but that's not been my experience of the whole situation (which I take from the Lancs councils along the M65 corridor mostly).
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on May 4, 2024 22:37:17 GMT
They made their point, and the bad blood isn't necessarily with their former colleagues. It's with the national party. That's a hair not many in Labour will split (Accidentally quoted wrong post last time) You'd be surprised of what people will do round here to achieve a worthy goal - especially if it comes down to letting the Tories in or letting the pro-Palestine independents back in.
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