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Post by heslingtonian on Sept 28, 2019 10:37:58 GMT
I'm not sure I'd describe Holmer Green as that,it's basically High Wycombe,but ever so slightly posher. I know someone who lives there and she moved from Micklefield,which isn't posh in any way or form. Wycombe and its suburbs are all upper working class with some lower middle class and I wouldn't even put Holmer Green in that category. Going back to politics, I bet it's one of the more Remain parts of Wycombe and I bet that,if the incumbent stood as a LD,he could win there. I come from High Wycombe originally. I think Wycombe is a lot more mixed than you suggest - there are definitely some affluent parts of the town and some much poorer parts (like Micklefield) but Holmer Green is more as I say, people who have made enough money to move there (which is why it's so Tory!) It's in the Chesham and Amersham constituency and I'm not sure how it would have voted in the referendum. At the risk of wandering off thread slightly, I think Wycombe could be an interesting seat at the upcoming General Election. As Mike says there’s quite a large BME population and some poor areas in High Wycombe itself. Also Steve Baker’s prominence as an opponent of anything short of the hardest form of Brexit imaginable will surely not endear him to thousands of moderate traditional Conservative voters in the constituency. I think I speak for many traditional Conservative voters in saying I would not be at all upset if he lost his seat given his behaviour in this Parliament.
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Post by carlton43 on Sept 28, 2019 11:16:20 GMT
That’s a brave defection! I've just realised Rozenburg is not quite alone.... I don't know if it's been reported elsewhere on this thread, but Barnet council's list of councillors shows Jess Brayne, elected as Labour in Underhill ward in 2018, as Independent. It appears she left Labour at the end of February, citing Brexit and antisemitism as the reason. So it's 37 Con, 24 Lab, 1 LD, 1 Ind in Barnet. That is a great title... 'Rozenburg Is Not Quite Alone'.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 28, 2019 11:33:23 GMT
I come from High Wycombe originally. I think Wycombe is a lot more mixed than you suggest - there are definitely some affluent parts of the town and some much poorer parts (like Micklefield) but Holmer Green is more as I say, people who have made enough money to move there (which is why it's so Tory!) It's in the Chesham and Amersham constituency and I'm not sure how it would have voted in the referendum. At the risk of wandering off thread slightly, I think Wycombe could be an interesting seat at the upcoming General Election. As Mike says there’s quite a large BME population and some poor areas in High Wycombe itself. Also Steve Baker’s prominence as an opponent of anything short of the hardest form of Brexit imaginable will surely not endear him to thousands of moderate traditional Conservative voters in the constituency. I think I speak for many traditional Conservative voters in saying I would not be at all upset if he lost his seat given his behaviour in this Parliament. Its interesting. Wycombe have always had right wing MPs but a predecessor Ray Whitney was a passionate European federalist who made Clarke look like a Brexiteer. Yet he was quite a traditional Tory. Strange to think he would have probably lost the whip. A popular local Asian councillor is the Labour candidate.
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Post by heslingtonian on Sept 28, 2019 12:05:31 GMT
At the risk of wandering off thread slightly, I think Wycombe could be an interesting seat at the upcoming General Election. As Mike says there’s quite a large BME population and some poor areas in High Wycombe itself. Also Steve Baker’s prominence as an opponent of anything short of the hardest form of Brexit imaginable will surely not endear him to thousands of moderate traditional Conservative voters in the constituency. I think I speak for many traditional Conservative voters in saying I would not be at all upset if he lost his seat given his behaviour in this Parliament. Its interesting. Wycombe have always had right wing MPs but a predecessor Ray Whitney was a passionate European federalist who made Clarke look like a Brexiteer. Yet he was quite a traditional Tory. Strange to think he would have probably lost the whip. A popular local Asian councillor is the Labour candidate. Sounds a bit like James Elles who was the local MEP for years. A huge European federalist but not a wet on non-European issues.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 28, 2019 13:20:06 GMT
Its interesting. Wycombe have always had right wing MPs but a predecessor Ray Whitney was a passionate European federalist who made Clarke look like a Brexiteer. Yet he was quite a traditional Tory. Strange to think he would have probably lost the whip. A popular local Asian councillor is the Labour candidate. Sounds a bit like James Elles who was the local MEP for years. A huge European federalist but not a wet on non-European issues. And his mother before him...
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 28, 2019 15:03:21 GMT
Remember,yes,it is full of richer people who have "climbed" up the social ladder but they have no reason to vote Leave,they like the status quo. Anecdotally, exactly the kind of people to vote leave. Not if their businesses or workplaces would be heavily affected by Brexit. There must be some City workers in Holmer Green.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 30, 2019 10:51:24 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2019 11:04:29 GMT
I wonder if that is the same Matthew Palmer who used to be in the GLYCs many years ago. Not sure it is from the picture
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 11:06:14 GMT
I remember a foaming right-wing member of the Greater London Young Conservatives of the same name back in the 1980s. Is this the same person? EDIT I see Pete Whitehead got there first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 11:09:56 GMT
I wonder if that is the same Matthew Palmer who used to be in the GLYCs many years ago. Not sure it is from the picture Most of us are not very recognisable from those days - I was two stones lighter, had a fresh complexion and a full head of hair.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 30, 2019 11:15:51 GMT
I wonder if that is the same Matthew Palmer who used to be in the GLYCs many years ago. Not sure it is from the picture Most of us are not very recognisable from those days - I was two stones lighter, had a fresh complexion and a full head of hair. True. I still have somewhere a programme from a National YC conference in Eastbourne from about 1987 or 1988 and the picture of Nick Robinson, who was chairman at the time has him with a very full head of hair indeed. Still recognisable as him though
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Post by ricmk on Sept 30, 2019 11:28:24 GMT
Wasn't he a candidate on the very first series of The Apprentice?
If so, he'll have some experience of being kicked out of a group mid-term...
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Post by mboy on Oct 1, 2019 22:43:42 GMT
If Salma Yaqoob gets the Labour nomination for West Midlands Mayor, the Tories are guaranteed to hold the Mayoralty. I also imagine that many Labour people would be reluctant to campaign for someone who was standing against the party only two years ago, and was briefly the leader of a rival political party. At this rate, Labour might as well go the whole hog by readmitting George Galloway and nominating him to succeed Sadiq Khan as London Mayor! Juicy: "Yaqoob 'unfit for office' says shadow minister" www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/01/metro-mayor-selection-process-hit-by-row-over-prospective-candidate
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 1, 2019 23:04:18 GMT
I would be quite surprised if Salma Yaqoob wins unless she has overwhelming support in the city itself. Pete Lowe is standing for selection who is on the left and has a lot of union support. He is also from Stourbridge which may help him in terms of getting Black Country support. I wouldn't vote for Liam Byrne for any number of reasons.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 2, 2019 7:38:59 GMT
Momentum's support for Liam Byrne is extremely puzzling. Any support for Liam Byrne is puzzling. But then this is the west Midlands where Sion Simon was considered a suitable candidate last time.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 2, 2019 7:57:00 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 2, 2019 8:30:52 GMT
The only Labour member on Dorset CC it seems.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 2, 2019 8:37:27 GMT
The only Labour member on Dorset CC it seems. There were two elected in May - Paul Kimber in Portland and Kate Wheller in Rodwell and Wyke. Kimber is staying but because Wheller has left, there will be no Labour group.
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 2, 2019 8:39:49 GMT
I am even more suspicious, then - particularly as the Tories seem happy enough for her to retain her positions. The statements she made were vague.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 8:45:26 GMT
Wheller is a good, well respected councillor who won her seat in spite of a Green wave in her ward (they won the two other seats). My impression is that South Dorset Labour is heavily polarised between more-left-than-Corbyn idealists and those who actually want to win elections.
A key example is the fact that someone who ran against a Labour MP in South Dorset in 2005, when it was the most marginal seat in the country, is now a high up figure in the CLP (Bernard Parkes).
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