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Post by tonygreaves on Sept 24, 2019 13:26:52 GMT
The comments that are made here have no bearing on what sort of organization the Labour Party is. Or the Lib Dems. True. But the reverse is true!
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Post by froome on Sept 26, 2019 6:43:56 GMT
I don't know if this was reported here at the time, but during the summer Tony Carey, Conservative councillor for Brislington East ward on Bristol City Council, left the Conservatives. A report on local radio today says that he has now joined the Lib Dems.
Rather oddly for such s defection at this time, he voted Leave in the referendum.
He says he hopes to stand again in his ward, which at the last election elected one Conservative (him) and one Labour councillor. The Lib Dems were well behind, roughly equal with the Greens.
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Post by BucksDucks on Sept 26, 2019 8:27:21 GMT
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Post by tonyhill on Sept 26, 2019 16:43:27 GMT
Yes, well some people probably do change parties for reasons other than personal advancement.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 27, 2019 9:18:22 GMT
Mark Titterington, councillor for Holmer Green on Chiltern DC, Conservative to Independent - saying his politics no longer reflect those of the Conservative leadership.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 27, 2019 9:43:41 GMT
Mark Titterington, councillor for Holmer Green on Chiltern DC, Conservative to Independent - saying his politics no longer reflect those of the Conservative leadership. Only the second political Titterington i've heard of, after Meredith Titterington, Labour / Co-op MP for Bradford South (1945-9).
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Post by neilm on Sept 27, 2019 19:50:25 GMT
Mark Titterington, councillor for Holmer Green on Chiltern DC, Conservative to Independent - saying his politics no longer reflect those of the Conservative leadership. Only the second political Titterington i've heard of, after Meredith Titterington, Labour / Co-op MP for Bradford South (1945-9). A male, for those not knowing.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 27, 2019 19:52:49 GMT
Only the second political Titterington i've heard of, after Meredith Titterington, Labour / Co-op MP for Bradford South (1945-9). A male, for those not knowing. Titter ye not!
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 27, 2019 20:36:57 GMT
Titterington is a common name on the estate on which I live; I know the wider family well, with one of them often enjoying Her Majesty's Pleasure.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 27, 2019 20:38:52 GMT
Titterington is a common name on the estate on which I live; I know the wider family well, with one of them often enjoying Her Majesty's Pleasure. I'm sure there no connection with Holmer Green which is one of those showy nouveau riche Bucks "villages"
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Post by CatholicLeft on Sept 27, 2019 20:40:56 GMT
Titterington is a common name on the estate on which I live; I know the wider family well, with one of them often enjoying Her Majesty's Pleasure. I'm sure there no connection with Holmer Green which is one of those showy nouveau riche Bucks "villages" Absolutely none - so far away from being a connection that they are speaking Maori.
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Post by spirit on Sept 27, 2019 22:19:00 GMT
Independent councillor Kevin Gibbs,(Penydarren Ward, Merthyr Tydfil CBC) has joined Labour.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 27, 2019 23:10:19 GMT
Titterington is a common name on the estate on which I live; I know the wider family well, with one of them often enjoying Her Majesty's Pleasure. I'm sure there no connection with Holmer Green which is one of those showy nouveau riche Bucks "villages" I'm not sure I'd describe Holmer Green as that,it's basically High Wycombe,but ever so slightly posher. I know someone who lives there and she moved from Micklefield,which isn't posh in any way or form. Wycombe and its suburbs are all upper working class with some lower middle class and I wouldn't even put Holmer Green in that category. Going back to politics, I bet it's one of the more Remain parts of Wycombe and I bet that,if the incumbent stood as a LD,he could win there.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 27, 2019 23:22:36 GMT
I'm sure there no connection with Holmer Green which is one of those showy nouveau riche Bucks "villages" I'm not sure I'd describe Holmer Green as that,it's basically High Wycombe,but ever so slightly posher. I know someone who lives there and she moved from Micklefield,which isn't posh in any way or form. Wycombe and its suburbs are all upper working class with some lower middle class and I wouldn't even put Holmer Green in that category. Going back to politics, I bet it's one of the more Remain parts of Wycombe and I bet that,if the incumbent stood as a LD,he could win there. I come from High Wycombe originally. I think Wycombe is a lot more mixed than you suggest - there are definitely some affluent parts of the town and some much poorer parts (like Micklefield) but Holmer Green is more as I say, people who have made enough money to move there (which is why it's so Tory!) It's in the Chesham and Amersham constituency and I'm not sure how it would have voted in the referendum.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Sept 27, 2019 23:40:18 GMT
I'm not sure I'd describe Holmer Green as that,it's basically High Wycombe,but ever so slightly posher. I know someone who lives there and she moved from Micklefield,which isn't posh in any way or form. Wycombe and its suburbs are all upper working class with some lower middle class and I wouldn't even put Holmer Green in that category. Going back to politics, I bet it's one of the more Remain parts of Wycombe and I bet that,if the incumbent stood as a LD,he could win there. I come from High Wycombe originally. I think Wycombe is a lot more mixed than you suggest - there are definitely some affluent parts of the town and some much poorer parts (like Micklefield) but Holmer Green is more as I say, people who have made enough money to move there (which is why it's so Tory!) It's in the Chesham and Amersham constituency and I'm not sure how it would have voted in the referendum. OK. That's just my observation,a lot of my college intake in Henley is from Wycombe and they'd probably identify as lower middle class/upper working class. My maternal grandfather grew up in Marlow so I know the area reasonably well, but I'll defer to someone from Wycombe itself. However, I don't think it's the kind of place that would have voted Leave given that Chiltern voted Remain and so did Wycombe district,which it is effectively an outpost of now. Remember,yes,it is full of richer people who have "climbed" up the social ladder but they have no reason to vote Leave,they like the status quo.
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 27, 2019 23:41:24 GMT
I come from High Wycombe originally. I think Wycombe is a lot more mixed than you suggest - there are definitely some affluent parts of the town and some much poorer parts (like Micklefield) but Holmer Green is more as I say, people who have made enough money to move there (which is why it's so Tory!) It's in the Chesham and Amersham constituency and I'm not sure how it would have voted in the referendum. OK. That's just my observation,a lot of my college intake in Henley is from Wycombe and they'd probably identify as lower middle class/upper working class. My maternal grandfather grew up in Marlow so I know the area reasonably well, but I'll defer to someone from Wycombe itself. However, I don't think it's the kind of place that would have voted Leave given that Chiltern voted Remain and so did Wycombe district,which it is effectively an outpost of now. Remember,yes,it is full of richer people who have "climbed" up the social ladder but they have no reason to vote Leave,they like the status quo. I lived in Marlow for many years - will PM you
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Post by neilm on Sept 28, 2019 4:36:08 GMT
Remember,yes,it is full of richer people who have "climbed" up the social ladder but they have no reason to vote Leave,they like the status quo. Anecdotally, exactly the kind of people to vote leave.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 28, 2019 7:12:32 GMT
Remember,yes,it is full of richer people who have "climbed" up the social ladder but they have no reason to vote Leave,they like the status quo. Anecdotally, exactly the kind of people to vote leave. Quite plausible, Neil, I wonder if anyone has had a look at whether that can be substantiated (and why).
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Post by ColinJ on Sept 28, 2019 9:53:14 GMT
Rozenburg's defection doesn't really hurt the Tory majority in Barnet, now: 37 Con, 25 Lab, 1 LD (unless I've missed any other defections). That’s a brave defection! I've just realised Rozenburg is not quite alone.... I don't know if it's been reported elsewhere on this thread, but Barnet council's list of councillors shows Jess Brayne, elected as Labour in Underhill ward in 2018, as Independent. It appears she left Labour at the end of February, citing Brexit and antisemitism as the reason. So it's 37 Con, 24 Lab, 1 LD, 1 Ind in Barnet.
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Sept 28, 2019 10:33:55 GMT
That’s a brave defection! I've just realised Rozenburg is not quite alone.... I don't know if it's been reported elsewhere on this thread, but Barnet council's list of councillors shows Jess Brayne, elected as Labour in Underhill ward in 2018, as Independent. It appears she left Labour at the end of February, citing Brexit and antisemitism as the reason. So it's 37 Con, 24 Lab, 1 LD, 1 Ind in Barnet. Yes - do a search on her name and you will find a Tweet of her resignation letter earlier in the thread. She was effectively an early defection to Change UK but, given that Change UK seems to have been and gone before it ever developed a membership structure, I doubt that that ever became formal.
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