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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 19:53:40 GMT
A lot of people in St Albans voted Labour at the last election in order to stay in the EU. It may be that some of them might now be regretting that in view of the duplicitous behaviour of Mr Corbyn... you clearly have never canvassed in St Albans
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 10, 2019 20:10:35 GMT
A lot of people in St Albans voted Labour at the last election in order to stay in the EU. It may be that some of them might now be regretting that in view of the duplicitous behaviour of Mr Corbyn... you clearly have never canvassed in St Albans I can't say for certain but I suspect Lord Greaves has canvassed almost everywhere.
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Post by tonygreaves on Apr 11, 2019 11:08:32 GMT
I have never canvassed in Northern Ireland or in Na h'Eileanan nan Iar. (Though we tend to go their every year).
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 11, 2019 21:43:22 GMT
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Post by carolus on May 14, 2019 10:47:00 GMT
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Post by clyde1998 on May 14, 2019 10:51:39 GMT
That's quite different to what other pollsters are showing...
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Post by carolus on May 14, 2019 10:57:51 GMT
That's quite different to what other pollsters are showing... If they aren't asking a euro question in the same poll, then that could explain why.
Think one major thing is just how bad this is for ChUK/TIG if only 1% of people care enough to write them in, compared to 10% for Brexit. Suggests they really haven't cut through in the slightest.
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Post by clyde1998 on May 14, 2019 11:03:27 GMT
That's quite different to what other pollsters are showing... If they aren't asking a euro question in the same poll, then that could explain why.
Think one major thing is just how bad this is for ChUK/TIG if only 1% of people care enough to write them in, compared to 10% for Brexit. Suggests they really haven't cut through in the slightest.
That's a point. Do we know if other pollsters have been asking the Euro VI question before their Westminster VI question? That could overestimate support for Brexit in a Westminster poll by priming people with the subject of Europe.
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Post by John Chanin on May 14, 2019 12:25:05 GMT
If they aren't asking a euro question in the same poll, then that could explain why.
Think one major thing is just how bad this is for ChUK/TIG if only 1% of people care enough to write them in, compared to 10% for Brexit. Suggests they really haven't cut through in the slightest.
That's a point. Do we know if other pollsters have been asking the Euro VI question before their Westminster VI question? That could overestimate support for Brexit in a Westminster poll by priming people with the subject of Europe. If I was constructing a poll (and I used to do so as part of my job), I would ask the GE VI question first, before exploring further. Since polling companies are professionals I'm sure they will do the same.
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Post by justin124 on May 14, 2019 12:44:28 GMT
That's a point. Do we know if other pollsters have been asking the Euro VI question before their Westminster VI question? That could overestimate support for Brexit in a Westminster poll by priming people with the subject of Europe. If I was constructing a poll (and I used to do so as part of my job), I would ask the GE VI question first, before exploring further. Since polling companies are professionals I'm sure they will do the same. I agree with that logic , but given that we now know that EU elections will definitely be held on 23rd May - whereas the GE date is unknown and further into the future - is it not possible that some pollsters have - for now - decided to focus on the imminent election?
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Post by tonygreaves on May 14, 2019 13:22:16 GMT
If people have to write in an "Other" the number is going to be a lot lower. The trends for the established parties tally with the others, if in a less extreme manner. (I'll settle for LD 15% though!) It also confirms the continuing process of UKIP extinction.
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Post by jamie on May 14, 2019 13:43:26 GMT
It would be good to see a split sample in order to understand how big the difference is for parties like Change UK and the Brexit Party.
However, as a general rule i would prompt for any party that regularly gets 1% or more in the polls. It does show a certain degree of the ridiculousness of the polling industry when a party that is polling 2nd for one pollster is not even prompted for another.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 14, 2019 15:52:22 GMT
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Post by curiousliberal on May 14, 2019 15:53:36 GMT
This has already been posted a little ways up thread.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 14, 2019 16:14:57 GMT
This has already been posted a little ways up thread. I haven't always got time to check all the pages, I'm in an Apple Shop with other people waiting to use the machines.
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Post by andrew111 on May 14, 2019 23:13:09 GMT
Red team to win at a Kantar? Or perhsps the electorate say "not voting for you, guv"
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Post by The Bishop on May 15, 2019 10:26:01 GMT
That's quite different to what other pollsters are showing... Its actually not that far off Opinium and ComRes, just has Labour a bit higher. As is so often the case, YouGov is the real outlier.
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Post by andrew111 on May 15, 2019 15:49:48 GMT
That's quite different to what other pollsters are showing... Its actually not that far off Opinium and ComRes, just has Labour a bit higher. As is so often the case, YouGov is the real outlier. What about BMG? How many outliers make an inlier i wonder?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 17:29:13 GMT
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Post by mrhell on May 22, 2019 19:23:48 GMT
Might as well look at sheep entrails given the differences between companies.
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