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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 13, 2019 12:31:18 GMT
Well both the Greens and Lib Dems were prepared to bend over backwards last time in support of Labour. Admittedly the Greens had fewer candidates than in 2015, but how exactly did the LibDems do that? By having a hopeless leader?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 13, 2019 13:24:16 GMT
Well both the Greens and Lib Dems were prepared to bend over backwards last time in support of Labour.I can't see it happening again, I would be very surprised if an olive branch was held out again in a Labour/Tory marginal. Where did we do this? AFAIK we stood aside for you (and you only) in Brighton West and Skipton & Ripon. You gave us a run in 7 constituencies, 8 if you include Kemptown but Labour was the frontrunner to beat Kirby there and I think it was always meant for the reds. You did give NHA and WEP a run in 2 constituencies, and Labour in another 7 (plus Kemptown), but we didn't do anything of the sort. In Cheadle, the Greens stood aside in return for the LDs standing aside in Edgeley ward next time up. And then the LDs ran a candidate anyway. All very odd and never mentioned again.
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 13, 2019 13:37:04 GMT
Where did we do this? AFAIK we stood aside for you (and you only) in Brighton West and Skipton & Ripon. You gave us a run in 7 constituencies, 8 if you include Kemptown but Labour was the frontrunner to beat Kirby there and I think it was always meant for the reds. You did give NHA and WEP a run in 2 constituencies, and Labour in another 7 (plus Kemptown), but we didn't do anything of the sort. In Cheadle, the Greens stood aside in return for the LDs standing aside in Edgeley ward next time up. And then the LDs ran a candidate anyway. All very odd and never mentioned again. Maybe they realised that we were standing aside in a constituency where we had never ever stood...
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 13, 2019 14:32:38 GMT
In Cheadle, the Greens stood aside in return for the LDs standing aside in Edgeley ward next time up. And then the LDs ran a candidate anyway. All very odd and never mentioned again. Maybe they realised that we were standing aside in a constituency where we had never ever stood... I did wonder about the whole thing at the time. It even made it into a leaflet I got. Really curious from start to finish.
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Post by iain on Mar 13, 2019 15:34:58 GMT
Where did we do this? AFAIK we stood aside for you (and you only) in Brighton West and Skipton & Ripon. You gave us a run in 7 constituencies, 8 if you include Kemptown but Labour was the frontrunner to beat Kirby there and I think it was always meant for the reds. You did give NHA and WEP a run in 2 constituencies, and Labour in another 7 (plus Kemptown), but we didn't do anything of the sort. In Cheadle, the Greens stood aside in return for the LDs standing aside in Edgeley ward next time up. And then the LDs ran a candidate anyway. All very odd and never mentioned again. When it came round to election time the Greens informed us that they weren’t sure whether they would be able to find a candidate, so we may as well stand.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 13, 2019 15:45:14 GMT
In Cheadle, the Greens stood aside in return for the LDs standing aside in Edgeley ward next time up. And then the LDs ran a candidate anyway. All very odd and never mentioned again. When it came round to election time the Greens informed us that they weren’t sure whether they would be able to find a candidate, so we may as well stand. Now that's even odder, as that's the ward they'd been working for ages.
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Post by hedgehog on Mar 13, 2019 16:31:42 GMT
If it was going to happen,
1) we should have found out which local parties supported this,
2) it should have been organised so there was an open primary, where members of both parties could pick a joint candidate,
3) the candidate should have campaigned under a joint banner
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Post by gwynthegriff on Mar 13, 2019 16:51:54 GMT
If it was going to happen, 1) we should have found out which local parties supported this, 2) it should have been organised so there was an open primary, where members of both parties could pick a joint candidate, 3) the candidate should have campaigned under a joint banner No thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 17:08:26 GMT
I had assumed the Lib Dems had stood aside for the Greens in Skipton & Ripon as well, unless they simply couldn’t find a candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 17:42:27 GMT
If it was going to happen, 1) we should have found out which local parties supported this, 2) it should have been organised so there was an open primary, where members of both parties could pick a joint candidate, 3) the candidate should have campaigned under a joint banner No thanks. tbf the lib dems and greens in richmond campaigned together
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 13, 2019 19:24:03 GMT
I had assumed the Lib Dems had stood aside for the Greens in Skipton & Ripon as well, unless they simply couldn’t find a candidate. We did. This was contentious at the time, and was based on a reciprocal arrangement in Harrogate, however it's questionable whether the Greens there did much in support of that arrangement. Either way, neither party won. We have now selected a new PPC for Skipton and Ripon, and I can't see us repeating the experiment.
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Post by tonygreaves on Mar 14, 2019 18:36:23 GMT
I don't think Richmond had anything to do with Skipton and Ripon.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Apr 10, 2019 8:59:03 GMT
1,172 adults in Great Britain between the 4th and 8th April 2019.
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Post by The Bishop on Apr 10, 2019 10:11:39 GMT
Also suggests 8% "likely" to vote for the CHUK party if they stand candidates.
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Post by tonygreaves on Apr 10, 2019 10:37:42 GMT
This is rather a curious poll in a number of ways. Still we are now getting into double figures in most soundings so perhaps I should not complain.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 10, 2019 12:31:19 GMT
This is rather a curious poll in a number of ways. Still we are now getting into double figures in most soundings so perhaps I should not complain. Well, putting those figures into the UKPR sausage machine gives us Cheadle, Yeovil, N Cornwall, N Devon, Brecon & R, St Albans etc etc so I'm not complaining either. But ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 13:37:32 GMT
This is rather a curious poll in a number of ways. Still we are now getting into double figures in most soundings so perhaps I should not complain. Well, putting those figures into the UKPR sausage machine gives us Cheadle, Yeovil, N Cornwall, N Devon, Brecon & R, St Albans etc etc so I'm not complaining either. But ... ah but you wont win St Albans
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 10, 2019 18:54:30 GMT
Well, putting those figures into the UKPR sausage machine gives us Cheadle, Yeovil, N Cornwall, N Devon, Brecon & R, St Albans etc etc so I'm not complaining either. But ... ah but you wont win St Albans Well, that was rather the purpose of the "but" ... Though - of course - none of us can really say who will, or won't, win in quite a lot of places.
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Post by tonygreaves on Apr 10, 2019 19:01:29 GMT
A lot of people in St Albans voted Labour at the last election in order to stay in the EU. It may be that some of them might now be regretting that in view of the duplicitous behaviour of Mr Corbyn...
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Post by manchesterman on Apr 10, 2019 19:06:03 GMT
Interesting to note in recent polls the lack of impact of either CHUK or the Brexit party. Both pollong <10% in every poll Ive seen them in.
Trying to put into context with the very early days of the SDP, can anyone recall or have access to stats about how they polled in their very first weeks of existence? Working from memory alone, I thought they were way up around 20% from the very outset? And even then they didnt "break the mould" as predicted. What chance for these "new " parties then given their current polling?
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