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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 18, 2019 18:17:22 GMT
Labour are doing well in the circumstances.
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 18, 2019 21:03:03 GMT
Labour are doing well in the circumstances. Unless you look at the other polls published today...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 22:30:44 GMT
Which one? There were 3 polls published today
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 19, 2019 9:12:17 GMT
Which one? There were 3 polls published today Pick whichever you want. They have Tory leads of 8-11% (the Kantar poll that you posted, the Panelbase poll and the Survation poll posted on here overnight)
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 19, 2019 9:20:27 GMT
But only Panelbase out of all these polls actually shows Labour support down......
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Post by jamie on Oct 19, 2019 12:07:33 GMT
In surprising news, someone outside of CCHQ seems to have commissioned ComRes to do a push poll
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 19, 2019 13:00:18 GMT
But only Panelbase out of all these polls actually shows Labour support down...... Well, only Kantar does not have the Tory lead increasing, and they have a Tory lead of 14%.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 13:07:13 GMT
But only Panelbase out of all these polls actually shows Labour support down...... Well, only Kantar does not have the Tory lead increasing, and they have a Tory lead of 14%. not at the expense of labour though
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 24, 2019 11:50:47 GMT
ComRes up to their tricks again I see, with a "poll" on water nationalisation that just happened to be the work of the private companies.
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Post by jamie on Oct 24, 2019 15:22:39 GMT
ComRes up to their tricks again I see, with a "poll" on water nationalisation that just happened to be the work of the private companies. And the Times article which took the poll as gospel didn't even mention the question wording that was so biased as able to get such a drastic change in public support (because conducting and comparing polls with the same question wording and priming is so old fashioned).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 17:22:30 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 24, 2019 17:44:30 GMT
1. I thought we'd established that the Great British public are terrible at predicting how they will react to some speculative future event.
2. It's fucking ComRes
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 24, 2019 19:59:05 GMT
I appreciate and accept all the caveats about polls, but AT LAST a poll reflecting something along the lines of how I thought the public (esp leave voters) SHOULD react in this event. All the talk/spin has been that leavers dont blame Johnson for failing to get UK out of the EU by 31 Oct "cos he's doing his bestest".
Huge relief*
*like I say, I know it's one poll but I need something to cheer me up!
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Oct 24, 2019 20:01:55 GMT
The poll fieldwork is a week old, when it seemed more likely that Brexit would happen on Oct 31st.
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Post by andrewp on Oct 24, 2019 20:06:42 GMT
I appreciate and accept all the caveats about polls, but AT LAST a poll reflecting something along the lines of how I thought the public (esp leave voters) SHOULD react in this event. All the talk/spin has been that leavers dont blame Johnson for failing to get UK out of the EU by 31 Oct "cos he's doing his bestest".
Huge relief*
*like I say, I know it's one poll but I need something to cheer me up!
It’s also a week old, so surprising it’s just appeared. How individuals think the rest of the population should react is an interesting thought!
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 24, 2019 20:08:17 GMT
You dont have any opinion on how you expect certain people with certain strong opinions on certain topics should (i.e you would expect them to) vote?
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 24, 2019 20:09:46 GMT
I didnt notice the fieldwork date tbf.
However, for the fun of it, I put those figures into Electoral Calculator and it gave
CON 265 LAB 263 SNP 51 LD 46 PC 3 GRN 1
NI 18
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Post by andrewp on Oct 24, 2019 20:11:17 GMT
I’m not sure I understand the logic of a Tory voter who would vote for the Brexit Party now, except those who see remain as better than anything but no deal.. It can only lead to a party considerably less likely to deliver any Brexit benefitting, I can more easily see why a Labour voter in Sunderland might have the rationale to vote for them.
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Post by andrewp on Oct 24, 2019 20:13:16 GMT
I didnt notice the fieldwork date tbf. However, for the fun of it, I put those figures into Electoral Calculator and it gave CON 265 LAB 263 SNP 51 LD 46 PC 3 GRN 1 NI 18 That would stop Brexit but would be a horrible parliament for getting much else agreed.
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Post by lancastrian on Oct 24, 2019 20:17:21 GMT
I’m not sure I understand the logic of a Tory voter who would vote for the Brexit Party now, except those who see remain as better than anything but no deal.. It can only lead to a party considerably less likely to deliver any Brexit benefitting, I can more easily see why a Labour voter in Sunderland might have the rationale to vote for them. Johnson has failed to deliver Brexit, so he must be punished, or a party that will actually deliver Brexit must be elected, hence the Brexit Party. Obviously that will only result in a government opposed to Brexit. Johnson can try to get that across in a campaign, but that doesn't mean anyone will listen to him. I didnt notice the fieldwork date tbf. However, for the fun of it, I put those figures into Electoral Calculator and it gave CON 265 LAB 263 SNP 51 LD 46 PC 3 GRN 1 NI 18 That would stop Brexit but would be a horrible parliament for getting much else agreed. Scottish Independence.
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