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Post by maxque on Nov 20, 2017 4:58:10 GMT
Trump will need a new campaign manager in Oklahoma, as the 2016 one, State Sen. Ralph Shortey pleaded guilty to child trafficking (in exchange of 3 child pornography charges being dropped).
It carries a minimum, mandatory 10 year jail term.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 13, 2017 16:15:09 GMT
I note that Maria Cantwell (D, Washington) is now the most senior junior senator, and is 60 next year. Any thoughts on whether she would have a crack at the nomination?
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Post by neilm on Dec 14, 2017 14:24:32 GMT
I note that Maria Cantwell (D, Washington) is now the most senior junior senator, and is 60 next year. Any thoughts on whether she would have a crack at the nomination? Have you read or seen something? If we're going for obscure West Coast Democrats then Jeff Merkley is more likely although I think he's been linked with running for governor. |
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Post by mondialito on Dec 14, 2017 22:47:26 GMT
I note that Maria Cantwell (D, Washington) is now the most senior junior senator, and is 60 next year. Any thoughts on whether she would have a crack at the nomination? Does she have much of a profile? I always imagined her as a solid if unspectacular VP pick. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 15, 2017 9:30:40 GMT
Cantwell is a fairly able Senator who combines a moderately pro-business outlook with extremely strong stances on environmental matters but she doesn't have much of a profile outside of her home state. I don't see how she would stand out in what looks like being a sprawling array of Democratic candidates. Chances are though that she will soon become a significant player in the Senate. She is ranking member of the Energy Committee, the number 2 Democrat on the Commerce Committee and the number 3 Democrat on the Finance Committee. If and when the Democrats return to the majority she could be looking at many years of being in a position of real power. As neilm says Jeff Merkley is much more likely to run and in the absence of both Sanders and Warren could become the standard bearer for the left. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 15, 2017 11:06:17 GMT
I note that Maria Cantwell (D, Washington) is now the most senior junior senator, and is 60 next year. Any thoughts on whether she would have a crack at the nomination? Have you read or seen something? If we're going for obscure West Coast Democrats then Jeff Merkley is more likely although I think he's been linked with running for governor. Haven't seen anything, just spotted something about her and thought she had an interesting profile and fairly relevant experience. |
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Post by johng on Jan 9, 2018 7:30:33 GMT
Oprah is actively considering running. Is it silly season already or is that what people said when Trump said he was running?
She is a brilliant orator and has a powerful back-story. She was born into absolute poverty as a black woman growing up in a single-parent home in the 1950s and 1960. And from this tremendous personal hardship, she was able to become a billionaire and one of the most famous people in the entire country.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:46:39 GMT
Oprah is actively considering running. Is it silly season already or is that what people said when Trump said he was running? She is a brilliant orator and has a powerful back-story. She was born into absolute poverty as a black woman growing up in a single-parent home in the 1950s and 1960. And from this tremendous personal hardship, she was able to become a billionaire and one of the most famous people in the entire country. But what does she think of: -military intervention -Medicare for all -state school funding -campaign finance reform -green energy investment in Appalachia -balancing the budget -minimum wage increases -free community college -enforcing anti-trust laws -trade deals (nafta/TPP) America has to stop this, politics isn’t a reality show. The country has to stop and deal with real issues it has been kicking the can on for decades. Sadly she might be serious, as is the state of things. Back story matters to an extent. It shows progress to have a first woman president. But the most successful president in US history, that did more for the poor and dispossessed than anyone since, came from a wealthy NY family. Personally I think Whoopi Goldberg would make a better candidate |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 9, 2018 10:01:28 GMT
Oprah Winfrey is a highly intelligent woman and entirely unlike Trump she is a self made businesswoman. She has almost total control over her enterprises.
I don't know her views on everything though she is clearly a liberal Democrat. I wouldn't rule someone out because their background is media.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:17:05 GMT
Oprah seems to be someone who is down to Earth and unlike the fascistic tangerine incumbent seems to actually care about normal people. I personally like her and I think she’d be a good POTUS.
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 9, 2018 11:19:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 11:22:20 GMT
She has no experience, when did this become unimportant? Suprised to see such support. I don’t think experience is necessary. Look at the mess that career politicians have got us into. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 9, 2018 11:29:03 GMT
She has no experience, when did this become unimportant? Suprised to see such support. I don’t think experience is necessary. Look at the mess that career politicians have got us into. I have a lot of sympathy with that view. Particularly in the US where a good team of advisers and officials is far more important than here. |
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Post by Robert Waller on Jan 9, 2018 12:46:13 GMT
She has no experience, when did this become unimportant? Suprised to see such support. I don’t think experience is necessary. Look at the mess that career politicians have got us into. If you mean no experience of electoral politics (which is a very different matter), the answer is certainly since the 1950s, when Eisenhower won easily twice. (And before 2016, presumably). Edit: and the President within that span with the best claim to prior electoral experience .... Richard Nixon. |
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Post by mondialito on Jan 9, 2018 13:29:59 GMT
Oprah is actively considering running. Is it silly season already or is that what people said when Trump said he was running? She is a brilliant orator and has a powerful back-story. She was born into absolute poverty as a black woman growing up in a single-parent home in the 1950s and 1960. And from this tremendous personal hardship, she was able to become a billionaire and one of the most famous people in the entire country. But what does she think of: -military intervention -Medicare for all -state school funding -campaign finance reform -green energy investment in Appalachia -balancing the budget -minimum wage increases -free community college -enforcing anti-trust laws -trade deals (nafta/TPP) America has to stop this, politics isn’t a reality show. The country has to stop and deal with real issues it has been kicking the can on for decades. Sadly she might be serious, as is the state of things. Back story matters to an extent. It shows progress to have a first woman president. But the most successful president in US history, that did more for the poor and dispossessed than anyone since, came from a wealthy NY family. While I share the exasperation @benjl and others have with the media's hyping of Oprah (compare the Daily Beast's praise for her Golden Globes speech with their hit piece on Kirsten Gillibrand last week), it is clear that Donald Trump has lowered the bar to the Presidency enough for anyone with a name and money to consider throwing their hat into the ring. She wouldn't need to do much to be a much better President or Commander-in-Chief than the present incumbent, would she? |
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Post by Jack on Jan 9, 2018 16:45:01 GMT
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Post by jamie on Jan 9, 2018 16:57:34 GMT
Oprah is definitely the best of the celebrity candidates. Well liked, inspiring backstory, good business experience etc. If she ran (big if), her only risk would be a Sanders/Sandersesque campaign from the left, and even then she won't have the negatives that Hillary did. The latter would ensure she succeeded where Hillary failed in the general.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jan 9, 2018 18:34:28 GMT
Michelle Obama would be a better candidate, surely.
It's interesting to note that most of the most prominent examples of celebrities-turned-politicians in the United States are Republicans. Aside from Trump, you have Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Shirley Temple, Clint Eastwood, Sonny Bono and so on.
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Post by beastofbedfordshire on Jan 9, 2018 19:41:12 GMT
Michelle Obama would be a better candidate, surely. It's interesting to note that most of the most prominent examples of celebrities-turned-politicians in the United States are Republicans. Aside from Trump, you have Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Shirley Temple, Clint Eastwood, Sonny Bono and so on. Just what we need, another dynasty in the white house (that goes for you to Ivanka) |
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Post by Jack on Jan 9, 2018 19:43:58 GMT
Michelle Obama would be a better candidate, surely. Having a former First Lady run for President hasn't worked out so well lately... |
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