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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 20, 2017 14:46:23 GMT
So Trump is now a drag on the GOP.
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Post by neilm on Aug 20, 2017 16:51:44 GMT
The 'strengthen the economy' question is the key one because that's what he'll run on.
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Post by greenchristian on Aug 22, 2017 15:00:24 GMT
The 'strengthen the economy' question is the key one because that's what he'll run on. I think you mean that's what his advisors will be trying to get him to run on... |
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Post by mrhell on Aug 22, 2017 15:54:11 GMT
Kasich is apparently going to be targeting the usual caucus states very soon. Lol Trump will crush any primary challenge, but Kasich would be hilariously bad. Rather like the Blairites, the Republican 'moderates' fail to understand their party has moved on. Maybe he'd get more votes than Liz Kendall though. Kasich has more conservative views than probably came across during the hustings. I wouldn't write him off. |
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Post by mrhell on Aug 22, 2017 15:55:51 GMT
For Trump to lose in the 2020 primaries his Presidency will not only have to be an epic disaster but seen to be an epic disaster by a significant chunk of GOP voters. If that is the case it won't matter who the GOP nominee is because they will be crushed in the general election. He might be defeated in the primaries but he could be wounded in the way Teddy Kennedy wounded Carter and Buchanan wounded George Bush senior. |
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Post by mrhell on Aug 22, 2017 15:57:03 GMT
NBC/Marist polls in three key Midwest states: Trump favourability (approve/disapprove): Michigan - 36/55 Pennsylvania - 35/54 Wisconsin - 34/56 Trump's conduct makes you feel proud/embarrassed: Michigan - 28/64 Pennsylvania - 25/63 Wisconsin - 25/64 Trump has strengthened/weakened the US economy: Michigan - 42/39 Pennsylvania - 45/38 Wisconsin - 41/41 Generic congressional preference (Dem/Rep): Michigan - 48/35 Pennsylvania - 47/37 Wisconsin - 46/38 That third category might say him. The economy helped Clinton in 1996. |
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Post by maxque on Aug 23, 2017 3:18:25 GMT
NBC/Marist polls in three key Midwest states: Trump favourability (approve/disapprove): Michigan - 36/55 Pennsylvania - 35/54 Wisconsin - 34/56 Trump's conduct makes you feel proud/embarrassed: Michigan - 28/64 Pennsylvania - 25/63 Wisconsin - 25/64 Trump has strengthened/weakened the US economy: Michigan - 42/39 Pennsylvania - 45/38 Wisconsin - 41/41 Generic congressional preference (Dem/Rep): Michigan - 48/35 Pennsylvania - 47/37 Wisconsin - 46/38 That third category might say him. The economy helped Clinton in 1996. The issue is than the election is not now. Economy is going very well in USA right now, but will it in 2020? |
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Post by lancastrian on Aug 25, 2017 18:56:55 GMT
Lol Trump will crush any primary challenge, but Kasich would be hilariously bad. Rather like the Blairites, the Republican 'moderates' fail to understand their party has moved on. Maybe he'd get more votes than Liz Kendall though. Kasich has more conservative views than probably came across during the hustings. I wouldn't write him off. I know he does, but not the build the wall, drain the swamp, lock her up sort of policies the GOP support wants now. Criticising Trump over Charlottesville won't go down well either. And would you trust someone with his record on healthcare to abolish Obamacare if Trump can't do it? (Of course Kasich might actually be able to get stuff done, but the US political scene probably won't consider that exciting enough to bother mentioning). |
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Post by Trab on Sept 15, 2017 21:47:09 GMT
Sanders is the nominee and (probably) the next President if he ends up running. Kamala Harris seems like she'd be a massive flop if she enters the race which looks very likely IMO.
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Post by neilm on Sept 15, 2017 23:57:03 GMT
Yeah, even if California does move itself up the primary calendar she'd be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 13:05:30 GMT
Sanders is surely too old for another run.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 14:07:57 GMT
Sanders is surely too old for another run. He will likely try nonetheless. He is 5 years older than Trump, but in significantly better shape. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Sept 16, 2017 20:57:08 GMT
Sanders is surely too old for another run. He will likely try nonetheless. He is 5 years older than Trump, but in significantly better shape. While at present there looks like being a very large field it is possible we end up with race boiling down to Sanders and Biden, who would be 79 and 78 respectively on inauguration day. |
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Post by john07 on Sept 17, 2017 0:34:29 GMT
Do people really think that Trump will survive long enough to feature in the Primaries?
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Post by Trab on Sept 17, 2017 2:59:50 GMT
I'm really looking forward to the legendary President Sanders/PM Corbyn camaraderie that will surely be developed by 2021.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 17, 2017 7:47:08 GMT
I want President Hickenlooper in 2020, not just for the comedy value of his name.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 8:00:20 GMT
I'm really looking forward to the legendary President Sanders/PM Corbyn camaraderie that will surely be developed by 2021. I can only presume given the posting time that that was some horrible nightmare. I'd put both events being odds against. Really hope I'm right... |
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Post by mondialito on Sept 17, 2017 8:06:46 GMT
Sanders is surely too old for another run. agist claptrap, he should run and stick warren as the vp just in case Or have Warren as the nominee, that makes more sense to me. |
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Post by tiberius on Sept 17, 2017 8:43:36 GMT
Do people really think that Trump will survive long enough to feature in the Primaries? It's possible. It's way too early to say if he will make it or not with 100% certainty. I think that Trump's fate will likely be determined by whether he will survive the Russia stuff. If he does then likely he has a clear path to being renominated by a wide margin. If he doesn't, well, then he is toast. |
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Post by mondialito on Sept 17, 2017 10:03:58 GMT
Or have Warren as the nominee, that makes more sense to me. warren will find it harder to win in the primary, sanders is almost guaranteed if he runs however I wouldn't be so sure. I think there would be some pushback from die-hard Clintonites who blame Bernie for weakening Hillary by a) not dropping out earlier and b) engaging in the same criticisms of her as Trump, feeding the 'Bernie or Bust' idiocy in the process. That these people are skating over Hillary doing the same to Obama in '08 is besides the point, enough people may hold a grudge enough to make it difficult for him to become the nominee. Warren on the other hand would be acceptable to both the Sanders supporting left and enough people in the moderate wing to be a strong candidate in both the primaries and the general election. |
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