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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 12:46:15 GMT
Ah, they don't make 'em like that any more.  Thank Heaven for that! |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 5, 2017 12:49:59 GMT
Ah, they don't make 'em like that any more. Thank God we had Mrs McWatters to explain to women that socialists are after the Housewife.  this was a very common tactic back then to get the candidate's wife to address women's meetings and talk about the shopping basket and so on. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 5, 2017 12:53:57 GMT
So unbelievably patronising, it's difficult to believe that it came out within living memory.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 5, 2017 12:54:07 GMT
Ah, they don't make 'em like that any more. Thank Heaven for that! McWatters, btw was the chairman of Harveys, the sherry firm. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:42:28 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:45:40 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:51:05 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:52:29 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:53:45 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 21:55:32 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Jun 7, 2017 22:05:33 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 17, 2017 14:04:10 GMT
Sheffield Hallam, 1966. Hardy for Hallam wasn't as successful as Hooley for Heeley. He was elected as MP for Rother Valley in 1970 and, following the 1983 boundary changes, became MP for Wentworth until 1997. link link |
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Post by greenhert on Dec 17, 2017 17:33:30 GMT
On that note, 14 years later, a vexatious litigant called Frank Foley (aka Peter Hayward) tried to use the same tactic nominate himself as "Nicholas Lyell" to confuse voters in North East Bedfordshire. Although an injunction from the real Sir Nicholas to stop him using this name on the ballot paper succeeded, he was still allowed to stand albeit with his real name instead. In Winchester, Richard Huggett (notorious for this tactic) tried to nominate himself as "Gerald Maclone" (against Gerald Malone) but was forced to use his real name (he still got to use the description "Liberal Democrat top choice for Parliament, however!).
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 23, 2018 9:28:33 GMT
From the Conservative Party archives - Brigadier Clarke (? Terence Clarke the future Portsmouth MP) attempts to forecast the results of the 1950 general election, with hilarious consequences.
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Post by swanarcadian on Feb 23, 2018 11:07:17 GMT
At least the Conservatives recovered much more quickly from 1945 than they did after 1997.
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Post by hullenedge on Feb 23, 2018 14:29:17 GMT
From the Conservative Party archives - Brigadier Clarke (? Terence Clarke the future Portsmouth MP) attempts to forecast the results of the 1950 general election, with hilarious consequences. Gosh...Brigadier Clarke (it will be him, Pudsey & Otley as Lib in 1945 then defected to the Tories) couldn't tip rubbish although the Guardian got into a flummox with their list of the '98 marginals' (by ascending Labour lead):-  Based upon prewar returns! |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 24, 2018 2:37:03 GMT
I know it was common in those days, but I've always been annoyed at how so many people used to refer to the Labour Party as "Socialists" even though there were already various Socialist parties existing. Did they do it deliberately to annoy? Or were they genuinely ignorant of the difference?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 24, 2018 9:12:57 GMT
I know it was common in those days, but I've always been annoyed at how so many people used to refer to the Labour Party as "Socialists" even though there were already various Socialist parties existing. Did they do it deliberately to annoy? Or were they genuinely ignorant of the difference? I have heard it was an instruction from Lord Woolton when he was Chairman of the Conservative Party that Conservatives must always refer to the Labour Party as "the socialists" because it implied Labour were committed ideological partisans. This use got passed down and was picked up by the Conservative supporting press. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 24, 2018 9:20:30 GMT
I know it was common in those days, but I've always been annoyed at how so many people used to refer to the Labour Party as "Socialists" even though there were already various Socialist parties existing. Did they do it deliberately to annoy? Or were they genuinely ignorant of the difference? Yes, I can confirm that in the 50s and 60s in Maidstone there was a deliberate and persistent use of 'Socialist' in place of Labour, so as to remind some of the nature of the beast and that it was not just an extension of their friendly union connection, but mainly to cause irritation and offence. Once at the expense of junking our Year Book half way through a print run because Labour had been used and the Chairman and Agent felt it was worth the added expense to junk and start again. All documents were proof read and corrected to Socialist before issue and print by the Agent and had to be submitted to him. And it was a course of irritation and did stir up enough ill-feeling to make them more tribal and more combative which was the whole point. When cross they contested far more wards and spread their strength and diminished available cash for the next GE. Also it helped a lot to stall the Liberals if we could ensure Labour stood as well. Those were the days when we were strategic, well organized and rather effective. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 24, 2018 9:30:42 GMT
I know it was common in those days, but I've always been annoyed at how so many people used to refer to the Labour Party as "Socialists" even though there were already various Socialist parties existing. Did they do it deliberately to annoy? Or were they genuinely ignorant of the difference? I have heard it was an instruction from Lord Woolton when he was Chairman of the Conservative Party that Conservatives must always refer to the Labour Party as "the socialists" because it implied Labour were committed ideological partisans. This use got passed down and was picked up by the Conservative supporting press. This in indeed the case. unfortunately further Tory research found that when the party referred to "the soclialists" large numbers of voters apparently thought they were referring to a completely separate party to Labour and ignored it. |
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