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Post by Pete Whitehead on Nov 11, 2016 13:31:54 GMT
The park is nice
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Post by Robert Waller on Nov 11, 2016 16:19:02 GMT
I always associate Queenstown Road with the really high-class restaurants that used to be located on it - first Chez Nico, then L'Arlequin.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Nov 11, 2016 16:57:20 GMT
Not looking like a good night for us, for second successive week. Boo! One ward where we were previously under 20%; three under 10%. Increased vote share in all four. Average 8.8% became 14.0%. Hardly startling, but progress (and points to many fewer lost deposits  ). Also note that all four were in the South East so can't imagine much outside help going to Eltham or Hitchin rather than Richmond! So, O.K.ish. |
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Post by akmd on Nov 11, 2016 17:26:02 GMT
Well overall your predictions were better than mine. I was less surprised by the narrowness of the Tory victory here than by the size of Labour's victory in Queenstown - even though that ward is a shithole I expected the local Tory strength in Wandsworth to win through (though as someone else pointed out their performance in recent by-elections in the borough have been poor). Perhaps joe should have stayed away just as @barnabymarder did  I'm a life-long resident of the ward and though it certainly has some grim housing estates (including your 'favourite' the Doddington), as Joe says it has some very nice bits too. This is essentially the mansion flats along Prince of Wales Drive opposite the park although some of the side roads have some pleasant properties too. This is one of those wards where turnout is crucial and, for once, it benefitted Labour rather than the Conservatives. No doubt the seat will continue to be vulnerable as the area continues to change. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Nov 11, 2016 17:32:28 GMT
It's important not to get too hung up on the grimness of the council estates in Queenstown. There are some quite high earning people living in many of those flats. The socioeconomic characteristics of Queenstown overall are not those of a safe Labour ward.
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Post by maxque on Nov 11, 2016 18:27:48 GMT
It's important not to get too hung up on the grimness of the council estates in Queenstown. There are some quite high earning people living in many of those flats. The socioeconomic characteristics of Queenstown overall are not those of a safe Labour ward. Indeed, before yesterday, the last time Labour topped the poll in Queenstown was in 1988. |
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Post by middleenglander on Nov 11, 2016 22:01:51 GMT
Greenwich, Eltham North - Conservative gain from Labour
| Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | since 2010 "top" | since 2010 "average" | | Conservative | 1,335 | 42.0% | +10.4% | +12.0% | +3.1% | +3.3% | Labour | 1,297 | 40.8% | +9.6% | +10.1% | +10.5% | +9.8% | Liberal Democrat | 279 | 8.8% | +5.5% | +5.3% | -5.5% | -4.4% | UKIP | 160 | 5.0% | -14.5% | -15.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Green | 110 | 3.5% | -6.0% | -6.5% | -4.4% | -4.8% | BNP |
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| -4.9% | -5.2% | -8.7% | -9.0% | Total votes | 3,181 |
| 51% | 54% | 40% | 42% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~½% / 1% since 2014 but Conservative to Labour ~3½% since 2010
Council now 42 Labour, 9 Conservative
Horsham, Southwater - Conservative hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 1,046 | 66.2% | +30.4% | +29.9% | +11.9% | +9.1% | Liberal Democrat | 308 | 19.5% | +2.4% | +4.9% | -11.8% | -7.8% | Labour | 118 | 7.5% | -2.1% | -2.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | UKIP | 109 | 6.9% | -8.3% | -8.2% | -7.6% | -8.8% | Independent |
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| Total votes | 1,581 |
| 22% | 23% | 46% | 50% |
Swing Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~14% / 12½% since 2015 and ~12% / 8½% since 2011
Council now 38 Conservative, 4 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent
North Hertfordshire, Hitchen Oughton - Labour hold
| Party | 2016 B votes | 2016 B share | since 2016 | since 2014 | since 2013 B | since 2012 | since 2010 | | Labour | 258 | 31.9% | -17.4% | -8.1% | -16.1% | -28.9% | -7.0% | Independent | 200 | 24.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 158 | 19.6% | -12.5% | -2.9% | -4.4% | -5.0% | -15.3% | Liberal Democrat | 150 | 18.6% | +9.9% | +13.7% | +14.4% | +13.8% | -1.6% | Green | 42 | 5.2% | -4.8% | -2.7% | +0.9% | -4.6% | -0.8% | UKIP |
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| 76% | 72% | 107% | 77% | 35% |
Swing not meaningful Council now 34 Conservative, 12 Labour, 3 Liberal Democrat
Wandsworth, Queenstown - Labour hold | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2014 "top" | since 2014 "average" | since 2010 "top" | since 2010 "average" | | Labour | 1,551 | 53.3% | +14.2% | +13.9% | +19.0% | +18.6% | Conservative | 987 | 33.9% | -5.7% | -6.3% | -7.7% | -9.5% | Liberal Democrat | 249 | 8.6% | +3.3% | +4.0% | -7.4% | -5.4% | Green | 122 | 4.2% | -4.8% | -4.3% | -3.9% | -3.8% | UKIP |
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Swing Conservative to Labour ~12% since 2014 and ~13% / 14% since 2010 Council now 39 Conservative, 19 Labour, 2 Independent |
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Post by mboy on Nov 12, 2016 10:52:44 GMT
Not looking like a good night for us, for second successive week. Boo! One ward where we were previously under 20%; three under 10%. Increased vote share in all four. Average 8.8% became 14.0%. Hardly startling, but progress (and points to many fewer lost deposits ). Also note that all four were in the South East so can't imagine much outside help going to Eltham or Hitchin rather than Richmond! So, O.K.ish. I think Whitney and Richmond have both sucked in resources over the last couple of months, which is likely having an impact. Also, I think a little bit of By-election fatigue is setting in, combined with the winter weather meaning activists are less eager get outside and campaign. I think perhaps we will see another uptick in the New Year as activist energy returns (although winning Richmond would be a game-changer). |
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Post by swix on Nov 12, 2016 15:03:42 GMT
The Queenstown result really doesn't bode well for the Tories in West London. Hearing rumblings about Wandsworth Tories being in a bit of a state organisationally right now. I wonder if they might be under threat of losing control in 2018.
I also suspect Labour in H&F will have been delighted with the result. Hardly suggests that they are under threat of losing control there.
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