Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 11, 2016 17:47:45 GMT
is to appeal to Non-College Educated (basically Working Class) Whites No, it just means white people who did not graduate from university (and who admit this to a polling firm; Americans like to lie about their educational attainment). There are overlaps with class but even more so with age (and the latter is why this is not such a clever longterm gambit). |
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 11, 2016 17:55:59 GMT
The biggest threat to prolonged Democratic dominance might be The Big One obliterating California  |
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 11, 2016 18:19:40 GMT
The biggest threat to prolonged Democratic dominance might be The Big One obliterating California The Supervolcano in Yellowstone going up would completely screw the Republican Midwest so perhaps they'd cancel each other out! |
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 11, 2016 19:05:13 GMT
The biggest threat to prolonged Democratic dominance might be The Big One obliterating California The Supervolcano in Yellowstone going up would completely screw the Republican Midwest so perhaps they'd cancel each other out! I see your Supervolcano screwing the Midwest and raise you a Tsunami striking the Eastern Seabord. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 11, 2016 19:13:52 GMT
After the LiberalDemocracy of the XIXth century and the SocialDemocracy of the XXth century we will certainly have a "BioDemocracy" in the XXIth century, based on genetics. Eventually this could result in this way:  A BioDemocracy based on genetics? Could you elaborate a bit on that please? |
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 11, 2016 20:04:25 GMT
The Supervolcano in Yellowstone going up would completely screw the Republican Midwest so perhaps they'd cancel each other out! I see your Supervolcano screwing the Midwest and raise you a Tsunami striking the Eastern Seabord. At this rate there's going to be nothing left of the United States... |
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 11, 2016 20:11:20 GMT
Hawaii will still outvote Alaska by 4 votes to 3 so the Democrats are OK!
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Oct 11, 2016 20:14:25 GMT
Hawaii will still outvote Alaska by 4 votes to 3 so the Democrats are OK! Epic tsunami in the Pacific originating between Hawaii and Japan. |
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 11, 2016 20:23:05 GMT
is to appeal to Non-College Educated (basically Working Class) Whites No, it just means white people who did not graduate from university (and who admit this to a polling firm; Americans like to lie about their educational attainment). There are overlaps with class but even more so with age (and the latter is why this is not such a clever longterm gambit). Some of the exit polls in 2012 were particularly hilarious in this regard. In some states the number of college educated people allegedly voting exceeded the number of college educated people actually living in the state. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 11, 2016 22:01:21 GMT
No, it just means white people who did not graduate from university (and who admit this to a polling firm; Americans like to lie about their educational attainment). There are overlaps with class but even more so with age (and the latter is why this is not such a clever longterm gambit). Some of the exit polls in 2012 were particularly hilarious in this regard. In some states the number of college educated people allegedly voting exceeded the number of college educated people actually living in the state. Voter fraud! |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 11, 2016 22:14:48 GMT
I see your Supervolcano screwing the Midwest and raise you a Tsunami striking the Eastern Seabord. At this rate there's going to be nothing left of the United States... is a short story covering the social, economic and political effects of a fictional fault-line along the Rockies slipping and most of the middle US sinking below the sea. It includes a discussion of the arguments about running the Pesidential election when lots of states have ceased to be, but many of their citizens still exist. A group of Governors of the Lost States group together to fight for their continued legal existance. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 11, 2016 23:02:10 GMT
American electoral geography changes far more than that of the UK or Australia. A lot of 'partisan' alignments are based on personality politics. There's no point in predicting the map in four years time let alone... But the general trend - no longer between economic classes, but races - is already obvious! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 11, 2016 23:18:15 GMT
After the LiberalDemocracy of the XIXth century and the SocialDemocracy of the XXth century we will certainly have a "BioDemocracy" in the XXIth century, based on genetics. Eventually this could result in this way: A BioDemocracy based on genetics? Could you elaborate a bit on that please? The decisive developments are presently made in genetics. In the near future You can decide, which genes Your child will have. But this anarchic Liberalism will make it (as always) necessary, that the state/electorate will choose, which genes have to be taken for public breeding, leading to racial conflicts being the central ones in PartyPolitics. |
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 11, 2016 23:18:29 GMT
American electoral geography changes far more than that of the UK or Australia. A lot of 'partisan' alignments are based on personality politics. There's no point in predicting the map in four years time let alone... But the general trend - no longer between economic classes, but races - is already obvious! No it isn't. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Oct 11, 2016 23:22:09 GMT
American electoral geography changes far more than that of the UK or Australia. A lot of 'partisan' alignments are based on personality politics. There's no point in predicting the map in four years time let alone... But the general trend - no longer between economic classes, but races - is already obvious! Not really. The only racial trend is that the Republican Party tends to alienate non-whites; it does not have anything near a monopoly on whites (although Trump leads Clinton amongst them, it is not by a particularly large margin). The majority of Americans aren't clamouring for ethnic democracy to be realised: they're just having to put up with the alt-right slowly turning what was once known as the 'Grand Old Party' into a white nationalist movement. Where Trump has gained for the GOP is amongst non-college educated white people. Now, due to his racist platform, he won't be able to attract many non-college educated black people or Latinos, so he is restricted to gaining amongst whites of that category, but he is not gaining support because they are white. If you look at his ratings amongst college-educated, suburban white women, for example, it's pretty clear that they aren't becoming a more Republican-favourable demographic. |
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Post by curiousliberal on Oct 11, 2016 23:25:15 GMT
A BioDemocracy based on genetics? Could you elaborate a bit on that please? The decisive developments are presently made in genetics. In the near future You can decide, which genes Your child will have. But this anarchic Liberalism will make it (as always) necessary, that the state/electorate will choose, which genes have to be taken for public breeding, leading to racial conflicts being the central ones in PartyPolitics. This is illegal, and the research required to develop it fully will also be illegal. Consequently, the introduction of it into society has been massively delayed, at least. Even if it does come into existence, the genes that define race can easily be separated from those with state-defined 'desirable' genetic qualities (and I do not believe the state will ever be able to decide which genes its future citizens will have in any liberal democracy), so race riots are unlikely. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 12, 2016 1:14:58 GMT
The decisive developments are presently made in genetics. In the near future You can decide, which genes Your child will have. But this anarchic Liberalism will make it (as always) necessary, that the state/electorate will choose, which genes have to be taken for public breeding, leading to racial conflicts being the central ones in PartyPolitics. This is illegal, and the research required to develop it fully will also be illegal. Consequently, the introduction of it into society has been massively delayed, at least. Even if it does come into existence, the genes that define race can easily be separated from those with state-defined 'desirable' genetic qualities (and I do not believe the state will ever be able to decide which genes its future citizens will have in any liberal democracy), so race riots are unlikely. But - awfully - the state will have to decide, which kind of illnesses, expectable LifeDuration, levels of intellect or emotion aso. are required/payable or not - and most voters will prefer their own race naturally. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Oct 12, 2016 8:16:25 GMT
I see your Supervolcano screwing the Midwest and raise you a Tsunami striking the Eastern Seabord. At this rate there's going to be nothing left of the United States... Collateral damage... |
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 12, 2016 10:57:14 GMT
...the alt-right slowly turning what was once known as the 'Grand Old Party' into a white nationalist movement. Yes, it's been glorious hasn't it. I am sure that the Democrats think so. |
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 12, 2016 11:19:43 GMT
I'm sure they do, but what difference does it make if the politicians who advocate shipping people's jobs overseas and then flooding their country with third world immigrants to compete for what's left have an R or a D after their names? If you are so monumentally stupid as to believe the crap you just posted I suppose it doesn't make any difference all. |
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