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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 2, 2016 21:57:54 GMT
Is the EU still ... like ... a ... thing?
Or is it just an abstraction in a Brussels corridor?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 2, 2016 22:13:50 GMT
I've been there too- and one of our favourites is Pozsonyi Kisvendéglő, just up the same road from there. Yes, we have often gone there. Good, sustaining food, generous portions and very cheap. Sadly, it seems to have been discovered by tourists, as it's nowadays much more difficult to get a table without pre-booking. Although often besieged by tourists, I'm a fan of Spiler in Erszebetvaros. Matrjoska is great too. |
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Post by Foggy on Oct 2, 2016 22:37:52 GMT
Wow. What are the highest referendum percentages in 'free' votes with millions turning out? (I.e. not including micro-votes like Falklands or Gibraltar) I think the margins in a country the size of Italy 5 and 25 years ago are remarkable. The current example from Hungary is less striking, because the wording doesn't seem to be neutral (unless the translation into English is poor) and there was a clear er incentive for people opposed not to take part in order to render it invalid. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 22:42:44 GMT
Wow. What are the highest referendum percentages in 'free' votes with millions turning out? (I.e. not including micro-votes like Falklands or Gibraltar) I think the margins in a country the size of Italy 5 and 25 years ago are remarkable. The current example from Hungary is less striking, because the wording doesn't seem to be neutral (unless the translation into English is poor) and there was a clear er incentive for people opposed not to take part in order to render it invalid. The Slovak gay marriage referendum last year, where it was abundantly clear that anyone pro-gay marriage should boycott had a lower margin. 94.5% Yes and 4.13% No to "Do you agree that only a bond between one man and one woman can be called marriage?" on a 21.1% turnout. |
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Post by Foggy on Oct 2, 2016 22:48:58 GMT
I think the margins in a country the size of Italy 5 and 25 years ago are remarkable. The current example from Hungary is less striking, because the wording doesn't seem to be neutral (unless the translation into English is poor) and there was a clear er incentive for people opposed not to take part in order to render it invalid. The Slovak gay marriage referendum last year, where it was abundantly clear that anyone pro-gay marriage should boycott had a lower margin. 94.5% Yes and 4.13% No to "Do you agree that only a bond between one man and one woman can be called marriage?" on a 21.1% turnout. Yes, I grant you that, but mboy's question was about astonishingly one-sided results rather than very low turnout (I was just pointing out that reasons for the latter can lead to the former). Besides, that percentage is in line with turnout at EP elections in Slovakia anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 22:51:28 GMT
The Slovak gay marriage referendum last year, where it was abundantly clear that anyone pro-gay marriage should boycott had a lower margin. 94.5% Yes and 4.13% No to "Do you agree that only a bond between one man and one woman can be called marriage?" on a 21.1% turnout. Yes, I grant you that, but mboy's question was about astonishingly one-sided results rather than very low turnout (I was just pointing out that reasons for the latter can lead to the former). Besides, that percentage is in line with turnout at EP elections in Slovakia anyway. Yes, I was more referring to the Hungarian vote being remarkably lopsided even for a lopsided referendum. |
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Post by mboy on Oct 2, 2016 22:55:58 GMT
Wow. What are the highest referendum percentages in 'free' votes with millions turning out? (I.e. not including micro-votes like Falklands or Gibraltar) I think the margins in a country the size of Italy 5 and 25 years ago are remarkable. Interesting, thanks. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 3, 2016 10:17:17 GMT
There have been several extremely one-sided referendums - various independence polls for example.
And an example closer to home - the 1973 NI referendum on whether or not to remain part of the UK, boycotted almost totally by the "nationalist" side.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 12:30:57 GMT
There have been several extremely one-sided referendums - various independence polls for example. If you only count valid votes Iceland voted 99.47% to 0.53% in favor of breaking the union with Denmark in 1944. They have had three other votes won by 90%+ (mandatory community service 1916, independence (= dominion status as a separate kingdom) 1918 and republic 1944. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 20:22:26 GMT
Results with 99,98 % counted: www.valasztas.hu/en/ref2016/481/481_0_index.htmlEligible voters: 8,261,394 Turnout: 3 587 173 (43.42%) Invalid: 223 252 (6.27%; 2.70% of eligible voters) Valid: 3 338 483 (93.73%; 40.41% of eligible voters) - Yes 55,555 (1.66%; 0.67% of eligible voters) - No 3,282,928 (98.34%; 39.74% of eligible voters) |
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Post by mboy on Oct 3, 2016 20:29:45 GMT
Wow. Again.
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