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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 22, 2016 22:18:11 GMT
Tynwald and MHKs (Members of the House of Keys) Only quoting the locals I met. Probably comeovers  |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 22, 2016 22:21:35 GMT
Bugger, why didn't I know this was happening? Incidentally, the "Van" in LibVan is short for Vannin i.e. genitive form of Mannin, (e.g. Ellan Vannin, the Isle of Man.) It is not a satirical reference to the possibility of fitting all the LibDems in a van. Obviously. That would be Libbike.  Actually, joking aside, these seem to me to be good results for LibVan. Generally speaking Manx politics never used to be party based, and the only organised parties were Manx Labour and Mec Vannin (nationalists). But I admit I don't know what the previous make-up was. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 22:25:06 GMT
Douglas North
David John ASHFORD 1,219
George Ralph PEAKE 1,177
John Ramsey HOUGHTON 775
Lynn SIRDEFIELD (Lab) 343
Karen ANGELA 287
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 22:26:16 GMT
Glenfaba and Peel
Raymond Karl HARMER 2,195
Geoffrey BOOT 1,805
Leslie Lucas Alfred HANSON 1,238
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Post by john07 on Sept 22, 2016 22:27:16 GMT
Bugger, why didn't I know this was happening? Incidentally, the "Van" in LibVan is short for Vannin i.e. genitive form of Mannin, (e.g. Ellan Vannin, the Isle of Man.) It is not a satirical reference to the possibility of fitting all the LibDems in a van. Rather like Baldric's recipe in Blackadder Goes Forth of 'rat au vin'. It was a rat that had been run over by a van. Is LibVan the only political party contesting the election? What happened to the Manx Labour Party? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 22:37:04 GMT
Recount in Garff. All three remaining seats are recounting.
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Post by middyman on Sept 22, 2016 22:37:16 GMT
Only quoting the locals I met. Probably comeovers You may be right but I don't think so. I encountered much unhappiness e.g. over the cost of transport to and from the island. The Isle of Man Packet is, of course, state owned but many of the locals, not comeovers, felt trapped as they could not afford the fares. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 22, 2016 22:39:19 GMT
Rather like Baldric's recipe in Blackadder Goes Forth of 'rat au vin'. It was a rat that had been run over by a van. Is LibVan the only political party contesting the election? What happened to the Manx Labour Party? Was asking myself that. Fourth place in Douglas North; also standing in Douglas East and Castletown, Arbory and Malew according to their FB page, which also says they've continuously been in Tynwald since 1918. I'd guess Douglas East will be their best chance; Castletown etc is very rural. |
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Sept 22, 2016 22:44:49 GMT
Probably comeovers You may be right but I don't think so. I encountered much unhappiness e.g. over the cost of transport to and from the island. The Isle of Man Packet is, of course, state owned but many of the locals, not comeovers, felt trapped as they could not afford the fares. I was only joking. I imagine all but the most stupid would know that using english equivalents would make more snese to you. The IoM is a small pool and there is a longstanding belief that a small clique of local big fishes runs it for their own benefit - I don't know of the belief is justified, but you can see how it might happen. And there is also the feeling that the financial sector may have its benefits for the island economy, but that thye do not necessarily trickle down and inflate house prices, fares etc. I note that a lot of the winners have Manx names. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 22:52:41 GMT
Second recount in Arbory, Castletown and Malew
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 23:09:05 GMT
Second recount in Garff
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Post by neilm on Sept 22, 2016 23:18:43 GMT
Only quoting the locals I met. Probably comeovers In Gibraltar, they still call it the House of Assembly despite it actually being a parliament with MPs. Some of the members are very very proud of having MP after their name. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 23:26:12 GMT
Douglas East
Clare Louise BETTISON 561
Christopher Roy ROBERTSHAW 487
Jonathan JOUGHIN 480
Quintin Bennett GILL 415
Amanda Jane WALKER 373
Catherine Rose TURNER 324
John Caley McBRIDE 303
Richard Fredrick HALSALL (Lab) 163
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Post by neilm on Sept 22, 2016 23:30:01 GMT
Only one Quayle this time? In the past it would have been a few.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 22, 2016 23:31:54 GMT
Bugger, why didn't I know this was happening? Incidentally, the "Van" in LibVan is short for Vannin i.e. genitive form of Mannin, (e.g. Ellan Vannin, the Isle of Man.) It is not a satirical reference to the possibility of fitting all the LibDems in a van. Are you sure it isn't a reference to the "nations' van" mentioned in the national anthem of New Zealand? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 22, 2016 23:58:08 GMT
Arbory, Castletown and Malew
Jason Robert MOORHOUSE 1,066
Graham Derek CREGEEN 991
Philip Anderson GAWNE 972
Stephen Raymond CROWTHER 950
Carl James PARKER 890
Richard Stephen McALEER 718
Carol Barbara QUINE (Lab) 267
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 23, 2016 0:20:38 GMT
Garff
Martyn John PERKINS 1,767
Daphne Hilary Penelope CAINE 1,270
Andrew Joseph SMITH 1,247
Andrew BARTON 346
Nigel Anthony DOBSON 231
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Post by mrhell on Sept 23, 2016 1:49:33 GMT
Ramsey Alexander John ALLINSON 2,946
Lawrie Lee HOOPER (LibVan) 1,471Leonard Ian SINGER 886 Nicholas Lyndon CROWE 716 John David McDONOUGH 236 Hooper stood as an independent in the area with the same name in 2011. Leonard Singer was the only incumbent to stand. |
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 23, 2016 18:21:33 GMT
So in summary, what were the changes/main talking points here?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Sept 23, 2016 20:46:47 GMT
So in summary, what were the changes/main talking points here? Incumbents did badly. Not only did seven stand down, five were defeated, so half of the MHKs will be new. Only two MHKs have served two full terms. So it was a 'change election'. Liberal Vannin got three members elected, but for the first time since 1919 there are no members of the Manx Labour Party. This is the Isle of Man so the change isn't really a matter of parties. No-one entirely knows how the new members will relate; things may be a bit clearer when the Chief Minister is elected (incumbent Allan Bell stood down so there's an open contest in which there are likely to be a lot of candidates). One of the biggest issues is a looming deficit in paying public service pensions, alongside all the traditional issues of the cost of living, public services etc. |
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