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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 11, 2020 10:43:15 GMT
Thinking of a jokey reference made by @barnabymarder in the Bradford East profile. What is the earliest election for which we have accurate records of votes cast? And indeed, when did competition for seats begin to emerge? It strikes me that I have never even thought about the topic. You really need a mediaeval historian for this but I think contests for elections began as soon as de Montfort insisted that members of his model Parliament be elected. Records are very patchy in the early years. The official indentures which mostly survive to record the names of the Members elected rarely record whether there was a contest, although they do sometimes give away the fact that a contest occurred: if the indenture is signed by a few names, it was unopposed, but a large number of signatures shows there was a contest.One of the best records of a contested election in pre-Tudor days is Huntingdonshire on 17 October 1450 about which the losing side complained in a petition to the King. You might want to read the chapter on 'Electoral Practice' in the History of Parliament 1386-1421: www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/survey/vi-electoral-practice
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 11, 2020 12:29:49 GMT
Thinking of a jokey reference made by @barnabymarder in the Bradford East profile. What is the earliest election for which we have accurate records of votes cast? And indeed, when did competition for seats begin to emerge? It strikes me that I have never even thought about the topic. You really need a mediaeval historian for this but I think contests for elections began as soon as de Montfort insisted that members of his model Parliament be elected. Records are very patchy in the early years. The official indentures which mostly survive to record the names of the Members elected rarely record whether there was a contest, although they do sometimes give away the fact that a contest occurred: if the indenture is signed by a few names, it was unopposed, but a large number of signatures shows there was a contest.One of the best records of a contested election in pre-Tudor days is Huntingdonshire on 17 October 1450 about which the losing side complained in a petition to the King. You might want to read the chapter on 'Electoral Practice' in the History of Parliament 1386-1421: www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/survey/vi-electoral-practiceThat is a fascinating document with all sorts of golden nuggets - I especially like desperate -and ultimately failing -attempts to keep lawyers away from parliament. What it says very little about , though is actual elections. As has been said most elections were uncontested, but some were. Does anyone know how those elections worked. We have lots of stuff about later elections, especially when we start to approach the Reform era, but I am terribly ignorant about the medieval practice.
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Post by Pimpernal on Apr 14, 2020 16:22:32 GMT
Thinking of a jokey reference made by @barnabymarder in the Bradford East profile. What is the earliest election for which we have accurate records of votes cast? And indeed, when did competition for seats begin to emerge? It strikes me that I have never even thought about the topic. Well, as noone will answer my question I'll pontificate on yours... It would depend on what you understand by the word 'election' - many of the earliest 'elections' were probably unrecorded, with a selection of men, at a Sheriff's invite, in a County room 'electing' some of their number. Only the winners would be relevant and details sent to Court for them to be summoned. In 1296 a royal writ was issued to the Warden and Sherriffs of London to 'cause two citizens to be chosen without delay from among the more discreet of the city'. All the aldermen were summoned and four men from each ward of the city chose 'with unanimous assent and consent' Stephen Eswy and Wiliam de Hereford (Aldermen) to go to the Parliament. The earliest County return I can find, that actually uses the word 'elected' is 1304 when Theobald de Nevill, knight, and Robert de Flixthorp were elected to represent the county of Rutland.
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Post by greenhert on Apr 14, 2020 18:30:15 GMT
If Charles Patrick "Pat" Wall had lived long enough to be expelled from Labour in 1991 as his fellow Militant Labour MPs Dave Nellist and Terry Fields were (which is I believe what would have happened to him had he not died in 1990), could the Conservatives have recaptured Bradford North if he had been alive in 1992 to stand as an Independent Labour candidate (both Dave Nellist and Terry Fields stood as Independent Labour candidates in 1992, after all)?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 14, 2020 18:57:16 GMT
If Charles Patrick "Pat" Wall had lived long enough to be expelled from Labour in 1991 as his fellow Militant Labour MPs Dave Nellist and Terry Fields were (which is I believe what would have happened to him had he not died in 1990), could the Conservatives have recaptured Bradford North if he had been alive in 1992 to stand as an Independent Labour candidate (both Dave Nellist and Terry Fields stood as Independent Labour candidates in 1992, after all)? It's possible. The Conservatives did appallingly in the by-election caused by his death, finishing third behind David Ward (and planting the seeds for his later victory). They recovered to an extent in 1992 but surely got a lower vote share than they would have done absent the by-election. In Dewsbury and Halifax - seats with somewhat similar demographics which had been Labour gains in 1987, the Conservatives actually improved their position in 1992. So Wall would not have had to do as well even as Fields let alone Nellist to have let them through the middle
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 17, 2020 9:14:07 GMT
Does anyone know any statistics which show the demographics of internet use by locality in the UK?
The best I've been able to find is the ONS Annual Population Survey which asks people if they have used the internet in the last three months, or ever used the internet, and is available broken down at NUTS 3 levels (usually top level local authorities). The GLA Demographics team have got the London only element and broken it down by demographics (https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/internet-use-borough-and-population-sub-groups).
But are there more localised stats, say produced for advertisers who (say) want to target an online message at older people living in a specific town, and need to know how many of them use the internet?
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 17, 2020 20:04:34 GMT
Anybody know where I can access maps of polling districts? I don't think there is any centralised source for maps. Your best bet is probably to look at the council websites for the areas you are interested in.
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Post by froome on Apr 17, 2020 20:07:28 GMT
Anybody know where I can access maps of polling districts? I don't think there is any centralised source for maps. Your best bet is probably to look at the council websites for the areas you are interested in. Looks like an opportunity here for a psephologist with some spare time on their hands...
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Post by BossMan on Apr 17, 2020 20:09:25 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Apr 17, 2020 20:19:02 GMT
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 18, 2020 3:32:51 GMT
I don't think there is any centralised source for maps. Your best bet is probably to look at the council websites for the areas you are interested in. Looks like an opportunity here for a psephologist with some spare time on their hands... You've reminded me I need to update this one with the new ward boundaries:
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Post by johnloony on Apr 21, 2020 11:10:10 GMT
A few weeks ago someone commented (don't remember who or where) that people might not take Covid19 seriously until a Prime Minister or President got it. Apart from Boris Johnson himself, are there any other countries' PMs or Presidents who have had it? A few weeks ago there was a report that President Bolsonaro of Brazil was tested positive, but that report seems to have been inaccurate.
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Post by ColinJ on Apr 23, 2020 15:57:40 GMT
Can anyone tell me the date of birth of David Simmonds, MP for Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner? (I think the year was 1976.)
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Post by andrewp on Apr 23, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
Can anyone tell me the date of birth of David Simmonds, MP for Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner? (I think the year was 1976.) 22/02/76 according to the Times guide.
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Post by jamie on Apr 25, 2020 13:28:00 GMT
Has anybody worked out the lead Labour would need on UNS to win an overall majority?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 25, 2020 13:34:57 GMT
Has anybody worked out the lead Labour would need on UNS to win an overall majority? For a bit of fun, I went onto Electoral calculus and simply reversed the Conservative and Labour shares This was the result, which sort of answers the question
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Post by jamie on Apr 25, 2020 13:40:07 GMT
Has anybody worked out the lead Labour would need on UNS to win an overall majority? For a bit of fun, I went onto Electoral calculus and simply reversed the Conservative and Labour shares This was the result, which sort of answers the question Thanks, answered my question and confirmed my suspicions (to be used in a forthcoming constituency profile).
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 29, 2020 14:53:37 GMT
Based on a point that @barnabymarder was making in the Huddersfield thread, which seat has had the most MPs since the war? (where a roughly contiguous seat of the same name exists)
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Post by finsobruce on Apr 29, 2020 14:54:19 GMT
Based on a point that @barnabymarder was making in the Huddersfield thread, which seat has had the most MPs since the war? (where a roughly contiguous seat of the same name exists) Ooh, good question.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 29, 2020 15:02:55 GMT
Bristol North West has had 10 since 1950
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