J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 12, 2023 12:15:58 GMT
We briefly has a polling district in Sheffield with zero electors between the 2004 ward review and the 2010 contituency review, when the boundary at Heeley Bridge moved from the river to the railway line.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 12, 2023 12:35:10 GMT
All Met/London wards with density of less than 300 per km2 Calderdale, Calder - 116.8 Doncaster, Spotbrough - 133.8 Barnsley, Penistone East - 136.4 Doncaster, Norton and Askern - 158.3 Barnsley, Penistone West - 160.2 Doncaster, Tickhill and Wadsworth - 174.8 Leeds, Harewood - 175.2 Bromley, Darwin - 176.3 Sheffield, Stannington - 185.2 Calderdale, Ryburn - 186.6 Calderdale, Luddendenfoot - 219.8 Oldham, Saddleworth North - 235.7 Bradford, Worth Valley - 238.9 Solihull, Meriden - 249.2 Kirklees, Colne Valley - 271.1 Doncaster, Hatfield - 276.1 Sheffield, Stocksbridge and Upper Don - 284.0 St Helens, Rainford - 293.4 Calderdale, Todmorden - 293.4 Amidst the Pennine moorlands (and a section of the North Downs which started this exchange), Meriden stands out like a sore thumb. Birmingham airport and the NEC account for a large part of the hectarage, and of course have zero voters. The rest isn't partcularly sparse - more dense than many rural constituencies in the flatlands. The South Yorkshire area is 'my patch' and I note two errors in that original list, for Doncaster wards : Sprotbrough Tickhill and Wadworth |
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Post by johnloony on Dec 12, 2023 14:01:53 GMT
The fun bit about that is that if the sole elector goes to vote on the dot of 7:00am, the staff in the polling station still have to sit around for the remaining 15 hours of polling day, just in case someone else turns up to vote claiming to be that same elector, and wanting to do a pink tendered paper. Or anybody in the borough wanting to hand in their postal votes. |
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 12, 2023 14:36:27 GMT
Amidst the Pennine moorlands (and a section of the North Downs which started this exchange), Meriden stands out like a sore thumb. Birmingham airport and the NEC account for a large part of the hectarage, and of course have zero voters. The rest isn't partcularly sparse - more dense than many rural constituencies in the flatlands. They're in Bickenhill Oops. That will teach me to post when I'm tired and jet lagged on a day late return from holiday. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 12, 2023 15:28:39 GMT
The fun bit about that is that if the sole elector goes to vote on the dot of 7:00am, the staff in the polling station still have to sit around for the remaining 15 hours of polling day, just in case someone else turns up to vote claiming to be that same elector, and wanting to do a pink tendered paper. Or anybody in the borough wanting to hand in their postal votes. I thought they were allowed to close up if there was a 100% turnout. |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 12, 2023 16:54:39 GMT
The fun bit about that is that if the sole elector goes to vote on the dot of 7:00am, the staff in the polling station still have to sit around for the remaining 15 hours of polling day, just in case someone else turns up to vote claiming to be that same elector, and wanting to do a pink tendered paper. Or anybody in the borough wanting to hand in their postal votes. I thought they were allowed to close up if there was a 100% turnout. They can do that in USA apparently |
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Post by YL on Dec 12, 2023 17:45:07 GMT
All Met/London wards with density of less than 300 per km2 Calderdale, Calder - 116.8 Doncaster, Spotbrough - 133.8 Barnsley, Penistone East - 136.4 Doncaster, Norton and Askern - 158.3 Barnsley, Penistone West - 160.2 Doncaster, Tickhill and Wadsworth - 174.8 Leeds, Harewood - 175.2 Bromley, Darwin - 176.3 Sheffield, Stannington - 185.2 Calderdale, Ryburn - 186.6 Calderdale, Luddendenfoot - 219.8 Oldham, Saddleworth North - 235.7 Bradford, Worth Valley - 238.9 Solihull, Meriden - 249.2 Kirklees, Colne Valley - 271.1 Doncaster, Hatfield - 276.1 Sheffield, Stocksbridge and Upper Don - 284.0 St Helens, Rainford - 293.4 Calderdale, Todmorden - 293.4 Amidst the Pennine moorlands (and a section of the North Downs which started this exchange), Meriden stands out like a sore thumb. Birmingham airport and the NEC account for a large part of the hectarage, and of course have zero voters. The rest isn't partcularly sparse - more dense than many rural constituencies in the flatlands. There aren't many Pennine moorlands in Doncaster either. Hatfield does have "Moors", but they are barely above sea level; the other three are just lowland rural areas which ended up in a Met because there wasn't anywhere else for them to go. |
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Post by greyfriar on Dec 12, 2023 17:45:59 GMT
The fun bit about that is that if the sole elector goes to vote on the dot of 7:00am, the staff in the polling station still have to sit around for the remaining 15 hours of polling day, just in case someone else turns up to vote claiming to be that same elector, and wanting to do a pink tendered paper. Or anybody in the borough wanting to hand in their postal votes. I reckon there will be a presiding officer and clerk with multiple polling stations within the same polling place, certainly that type of arrangement has been the case where slivers of one constituency overlap with another. Still additional administrative effort on the part of the PO1 in terms of ballot counts etc. |
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Post by YL on Dec 12, 2023 17:47:35 GMT
We briefly has a polling district in Sheffield with zero electors between the 2004 ward review and the 2010 contituency review, when the boundary at Heeley Bridge moved from the river to the railway line. There are currently three polling districts with electorates of zero in Wakefield, according to the electorate figures being used for the LGBCE review there. |
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Post by greyfriar on Dec 12, 2023 17:53:15 GMT
The fun bit about that is that if the sole elector goes to vote on the dot of 7:00am, the staff in the polling station still have to sit around for the remaining 15 hours of polling day, just in case someone else turns up to vote claiming to be that same elector, and wanting to do a pink tendered paper. Or anybody in the borough wanting to hand in their postal votes. I reckon there will be a presiding officer and clerk with multiple polling stations within the same polling place, certainly that type of arrangement has been the case where slivers of one constituency overlap with another. Still additional administrative effort on the part of the PO1 in terms of ballot counts etc. The BBC now having picked this story up from the local newspaper appears to have confirmed this will indeed be the case: “The ballot box will be placed in Amulree Hall, which will also serve as the polling station for a neighbouring district with 102 people on its electoral roll. Both areas are in the UK parliamentary constituency of Perth and North Perthshire but they are in different council wards.” Still, with only 103 on the combined electoral register across the two polling districts I’d recommend the PO brings a decent book and flask of coffee. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Dec 12, 2023 18:35:32 GMT
Here in Wales our polling districts are based on community council wards, therefore in our three we have:
Deinol: 91 electors in 6.8 km2 = 13.48
Mefenydd: 234 electors in 10.6 km2 = 22.07
Haminiog: 503 electors in 10.7km2 = 47.01
and across the county ward as a whole, we have 828 electors in 22.1km2 = 37.47
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 12, 2023 18:50:00 GMT
I reckon there will be a presiding officer and clerk with multiple polling stations within the same polling place, certainly that type of arrangement has been the case where slivers of one constituency overlap with another. Still additional administrative effort on the part of the PO1 in terms of ballot counts etc. The BBC now having picked this story up from the local newspaper appears to have confirmed this will indeed be the case: “The ballot box will be placed in Amulree Hall, which will also serve as the polling station for a neighbouring district with 102 people on its electoral roll. Both areas are in the UK parliamentary constituency of Perth and North Perthshire but they are in different council wards.” Still, with only 103 on the combined electoral register across the two polling districts I’d recommend the PO brings a decent book and flask of coffee. If they were voting in the same election could they go into the same ballot box? (Appreciate this is not the case in this specific instance) |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Dec 12, 2023 19:06:15 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-67689434The BBC now having picked this story up from the local newspaper appears to have confirmed this will indeed be the case: “The ballot box will be placed in Amulree Hall, which will also serve as the polling station for a neighbouring district with 102 people on its electoral roll. Both areas are in the UK parliamentary constituency of Perth and North Perthshire but they are in different council wards.” Still, with only 103 on the combined electoral register across the two polling districts I’d recommend the PO brings a decent book and flask of coffee. If they were voting in the same election could they go into the same ballot box? (Appreciate this is not the case in this specific instance) That's normal practise in SBC(aswas) and was in Sheffield. It only causes a problem if the council election is on the same day as a parliamentary election. When that happened in Sheffield in 2010, it was the election at which the parliamentary boundaries got aligned to the new wards, so the issue vanished.
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Post by Clark on Dec 13, 2023 8:31:18 GMT
Anyone know how many candidates Reform UK are planning on standing for the General Election?
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Dec 13, 2023 9:13:45 GMT
Anyone know how many candidates Reform UK are planning on standing for the General Election?
All in Great Britain
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 13, 2023 14:53:03 GMT
(On a final technical point: I understand that it would in general be legal to count the votes from an individual ballot box separately, should that be the most convenient legally acceptable method of conducting a count, and even to publish the result for that ballot box separately - but that, where the number of eligible electors in any polling district or larger area is below a certain threshold (somewhere, I believe, in double figures), then such a separate count is no longer legally acceptable unless the votes concerned amount to all votes cast in that particular contest.) Where votes are counted by hand, it's not legal to count a single ballot box on its own. When electronic counting is used, the Scottish local election rules require the returning officer to publish first preferences by polling station; but polling districts with fewer than 200 votes cast in them are required to be merged with other districts before publication. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 13, 2023 15:11:19 GMT
I recall being told of a count from a very small polling district (subject of a short-term rewarding/boundary issue) where every vote - 13 I think - was for the same candidate. The counting agent was of course barred from saying which candidate.
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Post by redvers on Dec 21, 2023 0:11:24 GMT
Did anything become of Jason Reece, the 1997 Labour candidate in Huntingdon against John Major?
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Post by redvers on Dec 24, 2023 17:48:45 GMT
Always been interested in a book talking about how election campaigns worked in the late Victorian era. I don't mean the broad politics, the actual nitty-gritty of the campaign work. Anyone got any suggestions?
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Post by iang on Jan 2, 2024 20:40:35 GMT
HJ Hanham, "Elections and Party Management", covers some of those things very well.
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