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Post by stepney on Jul 4, 2012 18:27:21 GMT
Some sort of preview: At some point it will probably be finished in some form or other. On this section boroughs with more than one constituency aren't split yet, for what that's worth. Ooo oo ooh, squeeeeeeeee! ;D ;D ;D And I think that's on a bigger scale than my 1885 map or Boothroyd's post-war maps <excitement> When will you be finishing this? And what are your base maps?
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 5, 2012 22:11:26 GMT
Acne 2010. Lab 50 (+6) C 4 (-5) LD 3 Grn 0 (-1). 2010 map: Cartogram of the 2010 results (showing each ward in proportion to its voting power): Split wards in 2010 were: Lordship: 2Lab/1C New River: 2Lab/1C Springfield: 2C/1Lab
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 14, 2012 10:50:39 GMT
Westminster 2010. C 48 Lab 12. 2010 map: Cartogram of the 2010 results (showing each ward in proportion to its voting power): There were no split wards in 2010.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 14, 2012 10:56:14 GMT
2010 map: Can you see why, when the police produce their crime map for a local community meeting, it is known as 'the shoe'?
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Post by johnloony on Jul 15, 2012 1:39:28 GMT
Can you see why, when the police produce their crime map for a local community meeting, it is known as 'the shoe'? No.... Do tell!
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Post by Crimson King on Jul 15, 2012 8:07:51 GMT
I can
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 15, 2012 9:15:07 GMT
I think David is acknowledging that his constituencts and those of the neighbouring wards to the north come under the category of 'Lowest class. Vicious, semi-criminal'
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Post by erlend on Jul 15, 2012 9:34:13 GMT
I think David is acknowledging that his constituencts and those of the neighbouring wards to the north come under the category of 'Lowest class. Vicious, semi-criminal' Before David says it I should point out that there are very few bankers living in his ward!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 15, 2012 10:03:15 GMT
George Osborne was a constituent until he moved to Downing Street a few months ago.
Actually we don't have any bits of current Westbourne which were 'vicious semi-criminal' in Booth's survey, nor in the other Labour wards of north west Westminster. There was a small bit in Church Street ward around Lisson Grove, where W.T. Stead bought his girl and where Shaw located Eliza Doolittle.
The crime maps are produced for the Met's Safer Neighbourhoods Panel.
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 15, 2012 10:49:14 GMT
Camden 2010. Lab 30 (+12) LD 10 (-10) C 10 (-4) Grn 1 (-1) Vacant 3; Haverstock was a postponed poll. 2010 map: Cartogram of the 2010 results (showing each ward in proportion to its voting power): Split wards in 2010 were: Belsize: 2C/1LD Camden Town with Primrose Hill: 2Lab/1LD Cantelowes: 2Lab/1LD Hampstead Town: 2C/1LD Highgate: 1Grn/2Lab
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 15, 2012 11:11:55 GMT
So, was it 1 Green or 2??
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 15, 2012 11:31:28 GMT
It was 1 Green and 2 Labour but the Green topped the poll. My practice in these situations, fwiw, would be to shade that as Labour because they won 2 of the 3 seats (they also won the ward on aerage vote)
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Post by andrewteale on Jul 15, 2012 22:01:56 GMT
Islington 2010. Lab 35 (+12) LD 13 (-11) Grn 0 (-1). 2010 map: Cartogram of the 2010 results (showing each ward in proportion to its voting power): Split wards in 2010 were: Canonbury: 1LD/2Lab Clerkenwell: 2Lab/1LD Hillrise: 1Lab/2LD Junction: 1Lab/2LD Mildmay: 2Lab/1LD St George's: 2LD/1Lab St Mary's: 2Lab/1LD
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Post by johnloony on Jul 15, 2012 23:17:41 GMT
It was 1 Green and 2 Labour but the Green topped the poll. My practice in these situations, fwiw, would be to shade that as Labour because they won 2 of the 3 seats (they also won the ward on aerage vote) My method (in pre-computerised hand-coloured maps) is to shade a split ward with stripes - fat stripes for the party with two seats alternated with thin stripes for the party with one seat. As it happens, I was looking up some old results for Croydon the other day, and in all the local elections since the start of the modern era (1964) there have been lots of split wards - but there has only been one instance of the party with 2 seats getting fewer votes-per-candidate than the party with 1 seat.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 16, 2012 22:00:27 GMT
I found a couple of census maps I did for Canada some time ago Household income and 'Black-Asian'
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Post by john07 on Jul 16, 2012 22:12:13 GMT
I think David is acknowledging that his constituents and those of the neighbouring wards to the north come under the category of 'Lowest class. Vicious, semi-criminal' How are crime maps worked out. Are they based on the home address of the perpetuator or the scene of the crime? If it is the latter I would have assumed that crimes such as burglery would predominate in areas where there was something worth nicking?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 16, 2012 22:21:45 GMT
I'm not sure about that - obviously my comments were a bit tongue in cheek. Westminster is a bit of a special case anyway, because while the northern most wards may be where the greater part of the vicious and criminial classes live, overall crime rates are likely to be much higher in the nicer ward in the south due to the prevalance of shops (shoplifting), bars and clubs (violence) and tourist sites (pickpockets etc)
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Post by erlend on Jul 16, 2012 22:31:24 GMT
And like any area where the wealthy live near the poor there will be more property burgled in the wealthy areas.
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Post by Sibboleth on Jul 16, 2012 23:23:49 GMT
This is why we need a criminologist posting here.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jul 16, 2012 23:31:25 GMT
It's one of the constant battles in Westminster, really. The shopping and entertainment area of the West End is a relatively small part of the council area - probably no more than two wards' worth out of 20 (though spread across several) - but it sucks in resources. There is a constant battle to get everyone to remember that outside of this area is a residential population which has all the ordinary needs for public service.
It doesn't help that the outside public and service planners also think of Westminster Council as being the one that covers the West End. They don't think of it as being the one that covers the Lisson Grove Estate or the Mozart. They don't even think of it as being the one that covers Pimlico.
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