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Post by hullenedge on Nov 26, 2021 7:50:20 GMT
Clustering of Scottish (Westminster) constituencies, k=4:- ![](https://i.imgur.com/eRieGXe.png) This chap's work:- https://gist.github.com/digitalWestie/aa6080d3c9b60c80b5dc515e6b818bda
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Post by johnloony on Nov 26, 2021 12:15:34 GMT
Clustering of Scottish (Westminster) constituencies, k=4:- What does that mean? What does the map show?
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 26, 2021 13:02:10 GMT
Clustering of Scottish (Westminster) constituencies, k=4:- What does that mean? What does the map show? Have you read the link? Explains how the Scottish seats have been grouped according to demographic trends and voting data. Three alternatives offered - 2, 4 or 6. There's spreadsheets etc. He's done the calculations in R (computer program) which you can download for free and tutorials on YouTube. In the above example (four clusters) the Aberdeen seats, Gordon, Inverness and most of Edinburgh are alike and grouped together.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 26, 2021 22:19:31 GMT
What does that mean? What does the map show? Have you read the link? Explains how the Scottish seats have been grouped according to demographic trends and voting data. Three alternatives offered - 2, 4 or 6. There's spreadsheets etc. He's done the calculations in R (computer program) which you can download for free and tutorials on YouTube. In the above example (four clusters) the Aberdeen seats, Gordon, Inverness and most of Edinburgh are alike and grouped together. No, I have not read the link because there is no link
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 26, 2021 23:21:16 GMT
What does that mean? What does the map show? Have you read the link? Explains how the Scottish seats have been grouped according to demographic trends and voting data. Three alternatives offered - 2, 4 or 6. There's spreadsheets etc. He's done the calculations in R (computer program) which you can download for free and tutorials on YouTube. In the above example (four clusters) the Aberdeen seats, Gordon, Inverness and most of Edinburgh are alike and grouped together. So I've thought for a time that your map obsession was a bit much (there's some really bizarre kinda sorta logic going on there in some of them) but this is complete madness, and you're parroting someone else's very odd reasoning. This is a pretty maps thread after all, and maps ain't pretty if they don't make any kind of logical sense...
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Post by Benevolent Dictator / Tsar on Nov 27, 2021 6:43:56 GMT
Have you read the link? Explains how the Scottish seats have been grouped according to demographic trends and voting data. Three alternatives offered - 2, 4 or 6. There's spreadsheets etc. He's done the calculations in R (computer program) which you can download for free and tutorials on YouTube. In the above example (four clusters) the Aberdeen seats, Gordon, Inverness and most of Edinburgh are alike and grouped together. No, I have not read the link because there is no link There is a dead link under map. Enlivened link.
Hope that helps.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 27, 2021 7:53:30 GMT
Have you read the link? Explains how the Scottish seats have been grouped according to demographic trends and voting data. Three alternatives offered - 2, 4 or 6. There's spreadsheets etc. He's done the calculations in R (computer program) which you can download for free and tutorials on YouTube. In the above example (four clusters) the Aberdeen seats, Gordon, Inverness and most of Edinburgh are alike and grouped together. So I've thought for a time that your map obsession was a bit much (there's some really bizarre kinda sorta logic going on there in some of them) but this is complete madness, and you're parroting someone else's very odd reasoning. This is a pretty maps thread after all, and maps ain't pretty if they don't make any kind of logical sense... You won't believe it, but few here are interested in NumberCrunching and not just in ideological infights! I for my part am very glad and have saved all His maps (less 2)!
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 27, 2021 7:55:53 GMT
It’s standard statistics to let your algorithm loose on the data and see what it comes up with. The problem is that it is not always obvious what these clusters actually mean. The data simply shows there are similarities and differences from other clusters that show up in the statistics. Statistics is a tool. It doesn’t provide explanations or show cause and effect. That requires knowledge and interpretation. Most people are familiar with the mantra that correlation does not equal causation (although it does more often than people who repeat the mantra tend to think). If you can be bothered to read the link, the author freely admits they are playing around and aren’t sure why the clusters come out as they do.
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Post by johnloony on Nov 27, 2021 8:26:21 GMT
No, I have not read the link because there is no link There is a dead link under map. Enlivened link.
Hope that helps. No it doesn’t help. The text in that link is even more incomprehensible gobbledygook than your dribblings above. I still have no idea what the map means.
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 27, 2021 8:32:29 GMT
So I've thought for a time that your map obsession was a bit much (there's some really bizarre kinda sorta logic going on there in some of them) but this is complete madness, and you're parroting someone else's very odd reasoning. This is a pretty maps thread after all, and maps ain't pretty if they don't make any kind of logical sense... You won't believe it, but few here are interested in NumberCrunching and not just in ideological infights! I for my part am very glad and have saved all His maps (less 2)! I find some of hullenedge maps interesting, and generating useful insights, and others just meh. So I suppose I’d prefer it if he only posted ones that were interesting, rather than all of them, even if they have taken time and care to prepare.
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Post by minionofmidas on Nov 27, 2021 8:41:50 GMT
You do have to wonder about the bit of the Highlands in North Glasgow. A set of characteristics that came up with that cluster may just possibly require further refinement before publication.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Nov 27, 2021 8:51:47 GMT
You do have to wonder about the bit of the Highlands in North Glasgow. A set of characteristics that came up with that cluster may just possibly require further refinement before publication. Well, if I have the boundaries of Glasgow North right, there is a Gaelic-medium school there.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 27, 2021 10:02:03 GMT
You won't believe it, but few here are interested in NumberCrunching and not just in ideological infights! I for my part am very glad and have saved all His maps (less 2)! I find some of hullenedge maps interesting, and generating useful insights, and others just meh. So I suppose I’d prefer it if he only posted ones that were interesting, rather than all of them, even if they have taken time and care to prepare. As long as we stand above statistics and are aware of its methodological/... limits, we can get more or less insights from nearly everything! And it's not so, as if this forum is as overloaded with "psephological" stuff as one would expect... Ideological disputes can be fought also at the forums of various media.
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 27, 2021 10:21:43 GMT
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Nov 27, 2021 10:30:18 GMT
I find some of hullenedge maps interesting, and generating useful insights, and others just meh. So I suppose I’d prefer it if he only posted ones that were interesting, rather than all of them, even if they have taken time and care to prepare. As long as we stand above statistics and are aware of its methodological/... limits, we can get more or less insights from nearly everything! And it's not so, as if this forum is as overloaded with "psephological" stuff as one would expect... Ideological disputes can be fought also at the forums of various media. Hear hear!
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 28, 2021 12:00:43 GMT
Wakefield MDC 1973-1980 (top winner only):- ![](https://i.imgur.com/2wxzmrG.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/PQf3ISs.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/TxcfGDY.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/MuKBW7J.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/xnG3IxK.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/sUxXWve.png) Results via The Elections Centre:- www.electionscentre.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Wakefield-1973-2012.pdfWard No.1 - East Alverthorpe, St. John's, West Alverthorpe (Wakefield CB) 2 - Eastmoor, Kirkgate, Northgate (Wakefield CB) 3 - Belle Vue, Sandal (Wakefield CB) 4 - Calder, Lupset, Westgate (Wakefield CB) 5 - Fryston, Wheldale Lock Lane (Castleford MB) 6 - Airedale, Glasshoughton, Redhill (Castleford MB) 7 - Carlton, Half Acres, Smawthorne, Whitwood, Whitwood Mere (Castleford MB) 8 - Ossett MB 9 - Baghill, Carleton (Pontefract MB) + Darrington, East Hardwick (Osgoldcross RD) 10 - Castle, Central, Park, Tanshelf (Pontefract MB) 11 - Featherstone UD 12 - Hemsworth UD 13 - Horbury UD 14 - Knottingley UD 15 - Normanton UD 16 - Stanley, Wrenthorpe (Stanley UD) 17 - Lake Lock, Outwood (Stanley UD) 18 - Ackworth, Badsworth, Havercroft & Cold Hiendley, Hessle & Hill Top, Huntwick with Foulby & Nostell, Ryhill, South Hiendley, Thorpe Audlin, West Hardwick (Hemsworth RD) 19 - North Elmsall, South Elmsall, Upton (Hemsworth RD) 20 - South Kirkby (Hemsworth RD) 21 - Crigglestone, Notton, Sitlington, West Bretton, Woolley (Wakefield RD) 22 - Chevet, Crofton, Newland with Woodhouse Moor, Sharlston, Walton, Warmfield cum Heath, Wintersett (Wakefield RD).
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Post by hullenedge on Nov 30, 2021 18:11:12 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 1, 2021 9:28:28 GMT
D&G Place-Names: "Tweets about the place-names of Dumfries and Galloway"
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 3, 2021 10:09:28 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Dec 3, 2021 15:13:04 GMT
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