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Post by maxque on Aug 4, 2016 23:26:10 GMT
Labour HOLD in East Brighton. Lab 1488 Con 514 Grn 286 LD 116 Ind ?? UKIP
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 4, 2016 23:26:12 GMT
BRIGHTON AND HOVE East Brighton
Partial result
Lloyd Russell-Moyle (Labour and Co-operative Party) 1,488 David Plant (Conservative Party Candidate) 514 Mitch Alexander (Green Party) 286 Andrew England (Liberal Democrats) 116
No figures for:
Leigh Farrow (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Ramon Sammut (Independent)
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Aug 4, 2016 23:30:14 GMT
Frome Britain Elects -
South East Holderness CON: 38.5% (+3.6) LAB: 33.8% (+7.9) UKIP: 16.4% (-13.3) IND: 7.3% (+7.3) LDEM: 4.1% (+4.1)
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Post by Old Fashioned Leftie on Aug 4, 2016 23:42:10 GMT
From Britain Elects
East Brighton (Brighton & Hove) result: LAB: 57.5% (+11.1) CON: 19.9% (-2.6) GRN: 11.1% (-8.5) UKIP: 5.9% (+5.9) LDEM: 4.5% (-3.4) IND: 1.2%
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 4, 2016 23:49:55 GMT
Looks like UKIP got about 150, and the Independent about 30, in East Brighton.
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Post by curiousliberal on Aug 4, 2016 23:50:28 GMT
Going backwards in Brighton does not bode well for our party's chances of reconciling with our student base, although Alston Moor is a bright spot tonight.
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Aug 5, 2016 0:04:37 GMT
Going backwards in Brighton does not bode well for our party's chances of reconciling with our student base Then I have some good news for you; it isn't a student ward but one dominated by a big council estate.
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Post by curiousliberal on Aug 5, 2016 0:11:21 GMT
D'oh! Thank you for correcting my error there.
Still, going backwards from a vote that low already isn't fantastic, to say the least. These things do happen in council elections from time to time, usually due to local factors, but it's still not pleasing.
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Post by Robert Waller on Aug 5, 2016 0:11:52 GMT
Alston Moor (Eden) result: LDEM: 54.6% (+54.6) CON: 45.4% (+15.7)
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 5, 2016 0:24:07 GMT
D'oh! Thank you for correcting my error there. Still, going backwards from a vote that low already isn't fantastic, to say the least. These things do happen in council elections from time to time, usually due to local factors, but it's still not pleasing. There is a pattern to our by-election results. Look at Andrew's previews and take stock.
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 5, 2016 0:30:42 GMT
Ashford, Beaver - UKIP gain from Labour
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2013 B | since 2011 B | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | UKIP | 373 | 42.1% | +11.6% | +8.3% | +23.3% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 243 | 27.4% | -3.3% | -3.0% | -8.4% | -10.1% | -11.4% | -14.1% | Conservative | 240 | 27.1% | +0.2% | +3.4% | +7.9% | -0.8% | -9.4% | -6.9% | Green | 31 | 3.5% | -3.8% | -3.4% | +1.2% | +0.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent |
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| -4.7% | -5.2% | -4.1% |
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| Ashford Independent |
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| -10.3% | -12.4% | -24.8% | -24.6% | Liberal Democrat |
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| -9.6% | -19.3% |
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| Total | 887 |
| 33% | 37% | 107% | 99% | 71% | 77% |
Swing Labour to UKIP 6% / 7½% since 2015 and ~16% since 2013 by-election
Council now 35 Conservative, 2 Labour, 2 Ashford Independent, 2 UKIP, 1 Liberal democrat, 1 Independent
Brighton & Hove, East Brighton - Labour hold
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2012 B | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Labour | 1,488 | 57.5% | +11.1% | +9.4% | +1.0% | +10.9% | +10.4% | Conservative | 514 | 19.9% | -2.6% | -3.2% | +1.1% | -1.4% | -2.0% | Green | 286 | 11.1% | -8.5% | -5.5% | -4.4% | -10.6% | -9.4% | UKIP | 152 | 5.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | +0.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 116 | 4.5% | -3.4% | -3.9% | +2.4% | -2.8% | -2.4% | Independent | 31 | 1.2% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | TUSC |
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| -3.7% | -3.9% | -1.9% | -3.2% | -3.6% | Total votes | 2,587 |
| 37% | 40% | 92% | 59% | 66% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~6½% since 2015, nil since 2012 by-election and ~6% since 2011 largely, but not entirely, as a result of increased Labour share from Green / TUSC
Council now 23 Labour, 20 Conservative, 11 Green
East Riding of Yorkshire, South East Holderness - Conservative hold
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2012 B | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 917 | 38.5% | +3.6% | +3.1% | +1.0% | +5.3% | +7.4% | Labour | 806 | 33.8% | +7.9% | +9.4% | +1.9% | +16.2% | +15.9% | UKIP | 390 | 16.4% | -13.3% | -14.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Independent | 173 | 7.3% | -2.3% | -2.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 98 | 4.1% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | -6.4% | -6.9% | Previous Independent |
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| -30.6% | -23.7% | -24.9% | Independent |
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| -10.4% | -10.1% | Independent |
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| -4.7% | -5.0% | Total votes | 2,384 |
| 35% | 36% | 75% | 44% | 46% |
Swing Conservative to Labour ~2% / 3% since 2015, ½% since 2012 by-election and 4% / 5% since 2011 as Labour share increases more than the increase in the Conservative share
Council now 49 Conservative, 6 Labour, 6 Independent, 3 UKIP, 2 Liberal Democrat, 1 Independent Conservative
Eden, Alston Moor - Liberal Democrat gain from Conservative
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Liberal Democrat | 302 | 54.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Conservative | 251 | 45.4% | +4.7% | -0.3% | +14.1% | +13.9% | Previous Independents |
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| -59.3% | -54.3% | -35.0% | -35.2% | Independents |
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| -14.2% | -13.7% | Labour |
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| -19.4% | -19.6% | Total votes | 553 |
| 46% | 52% | 44% | 45% |
Swing not meaningful
Council now 20 Conservative, 10 Independent, 8 Liberal Democrat
Newcastle-under-Lyme, Silverdale & Parksite - Labour gain from UKIP sitting as Independent Group
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2014 | since 2013 B | since 2011 | since 2010 | Labour | 399 | 56.4% | +9.7% | +19.5% | +2.2% | +10.0% | +19.2% | UKIP | 174 | 24.6% | from nowhere | -21.2% | -11.0% | -17.9% | -3.2% | Conservative | 80 | 11.3% | -10.6% | -0.4% | +3.2% | +0.3% | -8.2% | Independent | 54 | 7.6% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Previous Independent |
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| -5.3% | -3.5% |
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| -3.3% | -2.0% | -2.0% |
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| -15.5% | Total votes | 707 |
| 37% | 68% | 99% | 70% | 43% |
Swing UKIP to Labour ~20% since 2014, ~6½% since 2013 by-election, ~14% since 2011 and ~11% since 2010
Council now 28 Labour, 21 Conservative, 6 Independents, 3 Liberal Democrat, 2 UKIP
Nottinghamshire, Bingham - Conservative hold
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2013 | since 2009 | since 2005 | Conservative | 1,270 | 44.0% | +2.2% | -4.7% | +0.7% | Independent | 1,232 | 42.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 382 | 13.2% | -7.0% | +3.4% | -10.4% | Liberal Democrat |
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| -19.9% | -29.1% | -30.6% | UKIP |
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| -12.3% | -2.3% | Total votes | 2,884 |
| 79% | 70% | 46% |
Swing not meaningful
Council now 32 Labour, 21 Conservative, 8 Liberal Democrat, 6 independents
Rushcliffe, Cranmer - Conservative hold
Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2015 | since 2011 * | since 2007 * | Conservative | 318 | 54.3% | -17.6% | -16.0% | -21.9% | Independent | 138 | 23.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 130 | 22.2% | -7.0% | -7.5% | -1.6% | Total votes | 586 |
| 42% | 70% | 78% |
* boundary changes across the authority but thought to have little effect on ward Swing not meaningful Council now 34 Conservative, 4 Labour, 2 Liberal Democrat, 2 Independent
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 5, 2016 5:36:59 GMT
Labour HOLD East Brighton, Brighton & Hove One of you two is going to have to grow a moustache you know. It's very confusing.
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Post by marksenior on Aug 5, 2016 13:27:06 GMT
Alston Moor (Eden) result: LDEM: 54.6% (+54.6) CON: 45.4% (+15.7) LDem 302 Con 251
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Post by politicalmatrix on Aug 5, 2016 14:11:01 GMT
Promising result for UKIP in Ashford.
Nice to have some positive news, seems to have been very little post-Brexit.
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 5, 2016 14:31:29 GMT
Labour HOLD East Brighton, Brighton & Hove One of you two is going to have to grow a moustache you know. It's very confusing. I tried but the grey hairs made me look like Clive Dunn in Dad's Army 😳
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Post by Merseymike on Aug 5, 2016 15:10:28 GMT
The last few weeks have displayed just how few real marginals there are and that changes of hands are often down to local circumstance
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 5, 2016 16:15:55 GMT
Promising result for UKIP in Ashford. Nice to have some positive news, seems to have been very little post-Brexit. Harriet Yeo's patch isn't it? Must admit I was a bit surprised nobody predicted a UKIP win here, it always seemed like somewhere their recent slump could be bucked.
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Post by middleenglander on Aug 5, 2016 16:18:01 GMT
Without wishing to underplay the Liberal Democrat achievements in gaining 9 seats in by-elections since May, 5 from Conservatives, I do believe too much can be read into some of the results, as demonstrated by some comments on other sites, whereas an overview may give a deeper impression. For example this week there were 7 by-elections but the Liberal Democrats did not contest 4 of them: - Ashford, Beaver where they polled nearly 10% in a 2013 by-election and approaching 20% in a 2011 by-election, - Newcastle-under-Lyme, Silverdale & Parksite where they polled 15% when last contested in 2010, - Nottinghamshire, Bingham where they polled almost 20% in 2013 and some 30% in 2009 and 2005 - Rushcliffe, Cranmer not contested in recent times. In Brighton & Hove, East Brighton the Liberal Democrat share at 4½% was some 3% / 4% lower than in 2015 and 2011 although 2½% up on a 2012 by-election whilst in the East Riding of Yorkshire, South East Holderness the 4% share was well down on the 10½% / 11% achieved when they last contested the seat in 2011. The great excitement was largely due to the gain from a Conservative in Eden, Alston Moor. But here things may not be quite as they seem as a review of elections in this century shows. Year | Candidates | Seats | Electorate | Valid Papers | Turnout | Elected | Con vote | Highest vote
| Con share of of valid papers | 2003 | 2 Ind | 2 | ? | - | unopposed | 2 Ind | - | - | - | 2007 | 3 Ind | 2 | 1,700 | 717 | 42.3% | 2 Ind | - | 533 | - | 2011 | 1 Con, 1 Lab, 3 Ind | 2 | 1,894 | 866 | 45.7% | 1 Ind, 1 Con | 390 | 436 | 45.0% | 2015 | 1 Con, 2 Ind | 2 | 1,748
| 1,108 | 63.4% | 1 Ind, 1 Con | 487 | 710 | 44.0% | 2016 by | 1 Con, 1 LD | 1 | 1,686 | 563 | 33.4% | 1 LD | 251 | 302 | 44.6% |
Alston Moor is a 2 member ward with an electorate below 2,000, hence classed as a small ward. It was non-political in 2003 and 2007 whilst in 2011 and 2015 an Independent topped the poll. The Conservative received a vote from a constant ~ 45% share of all those voting in the 3 most recent elections where they had a candidate. A Liberal Democrat contested the seat for this first time in recent history appearing to pick up the 55% of voters who have not voted Conservative in the past Council elections. Although this is a 2 member ward it has the characteristics of a small ward where a very high proportion of seats have recently changed hands. It is also a "split" ward where changes tend to occur.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Aug 5, 2016 16:48:44 GMT
Sound stuff, middleenglander, and therefore useful much as I'd like to discount it. It seems to me that both in the Eden case and a couple of gains in July we won in seats we did not previously stand in. So there is some improvement merely by being able to find candidates where we previously could not, and that is some cause for optimism - it suggests that we are no longer totally demoralised and able to gain some benefit as a result, small wards or not. And to some extent perceived success helps despite the caveats - "winning here" etc. It is quite hard to spin being the only party to make net gains in bye-elections as not some sort of success. East Brighton seemed disappointing to me - not expecting a win, but I thought an increased vote share might be possible with Labour in some local difficulty. Looks like I should add SE Holderness to that.
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Post by marksenior on Aug 5, 2016 18:15:59 GMT
I take note of what middleenglander says but although it is the only way to do so it is not particularly accurate to compare the vote shares in East Brighton as the Lib Dems only had 1 candidate in 2015 and that will give a higher % than if they had fielded a full slate . The 2 Notts contests are more interesting as the Independents in Bingham aka Bingham First are almost all former Lib Dems ( indeed some of them still are ) led by Rushcliffe District Councillor George Davidson elected originally in 2003 as a Lib Dem but re elected in 2015 as an Independent. George Davidson was also the Lib Dem candidate for Bingham in 2005/20092013 .It is no surprise that the Lib Dems did not compete against them in the by election .
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