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Post by Tangent on Mar 30, 2016 12:30:29 GMT
Echoing Pete's comment in another folder... I'm only familiar with the London ones which were certainly bad. Is there a record anywhere of results in other areas? |
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 30, 2016 15:22:29 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 30, 2016 15:28:47 GMT
The council compositions pre-1973 were also previously posted by Davıd Boothroyd somewhere in this section. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 30, 2016 15:38:28 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 30, 2016 15:46:13 GMT
OTOH, Blackpool - the Tories might not even manage that now in a landslide year for them nationally.
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 30, 2016 15:53:05 GMT
ISTR someone saying that the combined effect of 1968 and 1971 was a major shift to the left amongst Labour councillors - many longstanding moderates lost their seats in the 1968 onslaught and a younger more left-wing generation won the seats back in 1971. Was this the point where the Labour civil wars of the late 1970s and 1980s began?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 16:05:36 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 30, 2016 16:15:24 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Mar 30, 2016 17:10:46 GMT
Rather fascinating to see how small urban district councils could be back then-some had as few as 9 or 10 councillors. By comparison, the smallest district-level authority in the UK today, Clackmannanshire, has 18 councillors, and no English local authority has fewer than 24.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 30, 2016 17:15:09 GMT
ISTR someone saying that the combined effect of 1968 and 1971 was a major shift to the left amongst Labour councillors - many longstanding moderates lost their seats in the 1968 onslaught and a younger more left-wing generation won the seats back in 1971. Was this the point where the Labour civil wars of the late 1970s and 1980s began? Not entirely but there was certainly something of this in London. In "Citizen Ken" Livingstone recalled how 1968 cleared out all of the old guard in Lambeth and most of those who came on in 71 were further to the left. But in Islington a lot of them came back again and it was similar in Haringey. Also we have to consider what we mean by left winger. In 1971 being socially liberal would probably have qualified you. |
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 30, 2016 17:17:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 17:59:43 GMT
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Post by David Ashforth on Mar 30, 2016 21:15:30 GMT
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 31, 2016 12:15:08 GMT
Back of an envelope but these are the Labour seat totals (allowing for boundary changes etc) for the six CBs and ten MBs within the current W. Yorks:-
1959 - 95, 1960 - 67, 1961 - 94, 1962 - 106, 1963 - 108, 1964 - 113, 1965 - 78, 1966 - 99, 1967 - 65, 1968 - 29, 1969 - 35, 1970 - 85, 1971 - 123 and 1972 - 108.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 17:10:39 GMT
This is very much appreciated and very useful. Which newspaper was that? Do you have any other similar articles for other pre-1974 council elections you might care to share? |
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 8, 2016 11:26:35 GMT
From The Economist. They covered locals very well from the mid 60s to the early 90s. Will post more later.
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Post by hullenedge on Apr 8, 2016 12:04:35 GMT
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Post by AdminSTB on Jun 23, 2020 21:31:16 GMT
HOLMFIRTH UDC
An unusually disappointing set of results for Labour in this UDC in what was generally a very good year indeed for them. Perhaps a by-election winner was defending in Netherthong. I'm wondering if Mrs WA Taylor in Wooldale ward was one and the same as the future frontbencher and now Baroness Bolton.
FULSTONE - Lab gain from Lib
Mrs R Briggs, Lab 437
*K Thompson, Lib 312
HEPWORTH
R Kilner, Con 273
T Jackson, Lab 119
HOLMFIRTH NORTH CENTRAL
*GH Mewies, Con 201
JH Mallinson, Lab 154
HOLMFIRTH SOUTH CENTRAL
M Crossland, Ind 255
TE Appleyard, Lab 154
HONLEY CENTRAL (2 seats)
Mrs ML Smailes, Ind 478
*PR Cleary, Lib 381
G Carr, Lab 358
C McCracken, Lab 321
P Dyson, Ind 215
NETHERTHONG - Con gain from Lab
Mrs WH Stangroom, Con 324
*W Carter, Lab 307
SCHOLES - Lib gain from Lab
Mrs JI Wood, Lib 297
S Garlick, Lab 286
UPPERTHONG
*JC Kainer, Ind 344
Mrs LM Carr, Lab 131
WOOLDALE
*G Coldwell, Lib 506
Mrs WA Taylor, Lab 460
EDIT: 1972 was better in Holmfirth for Labour than 1971, which again was unusual. A certain WA Taylor won in Fulstone ward.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 23, 2020 21:40:41 GMT
HOLMFIRTH UDC
An unusually disappointing set of results for Labour in this UDC in what was generally a very good year indeed for them. Perhaps a by-election winner was defending in Netherthong. I'm wondering if Mrs WA Taylor in Wooldale ward was one and the same as the future frontbencher and now Baroness Bolton. FULSTONE - Lab gain from Lib Mrs R Briggs, Lab 437 *K Thompson, Lib 312 HEPWORTH R Kilner, Con 273 T Jackson, Lab 119 HOLMFIRTH NORTH CENTRAL *GH Mewies, Con 201 JH Mallinson, Lab 154 HOLMFIRTH SOUTH CENTRAL M Crossland, Ind 255 TE Appleyard, Lab 154 HONLEY CENTRAL (2 seats) Mrs ML Smailes, Ind 478 *PR Cleary, Lib 381 G Carr, Lab 358 C McCracken, Lab 321 P Dyson, Ind 215 NETHERTHONG - Con gain from Lab Mrs WH Stangroom, Con 324 *W Carter, Lab 307 SCHOLES - Lib gain from Lab Mrs JI Wood, Lib 297 S Garlick, Lab 286 UPPERTHONG *JC Kainer, Ind 344 Mrs LM Carr, Lab 131 WOOLDALE *G Coldwell, Lib 506 Mrs WA Taylor, Lab 460 EDIT: 1972 was better in Holmfirth for Labour than 1971, which again was unusual. A certain WA Taylor won in Fulstone ward. Always unfortunate if you can't defend your Upperthong or your Netherthong. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 23, 2020 21:42:45 GMT
I think it's very likely. She comes from Bolton originally, but actually lives in Holmfirth now - she became an MP in 1974 so if it us her can't have been on Holmfirth council for long - probably only until it was dissolved?
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I'm only familiar with the London ones which were certainly bad. Is there a record anywhere of results in other areas?
