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Post by Harry Hayfield on Sept 29, 2018 21:18:30 GMT
In an idle moment I tried to find how to get printed versions of the 2018 reports but they don't appear to have been sent for printing yet. Considering that this government is trying to convince people not to buy plastic things, they do seem to have rather the disregard for trees if they intend to print reports about something that may not actually happen (based on the suggestion that the vote on them will not happen for ages yet) |
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 30, 2018 8:38:19 GMT
In an idle moment I tried to find how to get printed versions of the 2018 reports but they don't appear to have been sent for printing yet. Considering that this government is trying to convince people not to buy plastic things, they do seem to have rather the disregard for trees if they intend to print reports about something that may not actually happen (based on the suggestion that the vote on them will not happen for ages yet) Paper doesn't produce the environmental problems that plastic does. In fact, in some cases, buying paper books can help fight climate change by taking carbon out of the ecosystem. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 1, 2018 8:14:07 GMT
In an idle moment I tried to find how to get printed versions of the 2018 reports but they don't appear to have been sent for printing yet. Just print the pdf's yourself!  |
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Post by ftmu on Oct 1, 2018 10:14:24 GMT
In an idle moment I tried to find how to get printed versions of the 2018 reports but they don't appear to have been sent for printing yet. maybe they know that the reports will be rejected by Parliament, so they aren't wasting time / paper getting them printed ?! |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 3, 2018 11:24:52 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 3, 2018 16:47:07 GMT
At the tables M.Baxter and A.Wells-vs.-M.Baxter i have wrong winners in... - Perth&PerthshireN (Wells: CON, Baxter: SNP) - FifeS (Wells: SNP, Baxter: LAB) - StockportW&Cheadle (Wells: LAB, Baxter: CON) - EdinburghW (Wells: LD, Baxter: SNP) I am sorry; please inform me, if You find mistakes. |
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Post by catking on Oct 4, 2018 9:06:02 GMT
There is no way Stockport West & Cheadle is notionally Tory. That seat is going to vote Labour very comfortably.
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Post by greenchristian on Oct 4, 2018 9:19:00 GMT
There is no way Stockport West & Cheadle is notionally Tory. That seat is going to vote Labour very comfortably. Remember that notional results are based on the idea that people would have voted the same way under the new boundaries. And since we don't have official breakdowns of General Election results by ward it's inevitable that some seats will have ridiculous notionals due to the difficulty of accurately estimating what proportion of a party's vote in came from which wards/ward splits. |
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Post by catking on Oct 4, 2018 10:47:51 GMT
There is no way Stockport West & Cheadle is notionally Tory. That seat is going to vote Labour very comfortably. Remember that notional results are based on the idea that people would have voted the same way under the new boundaries. And since we don't have official breakdowns of General Election results by ward it's inevitable that some seats will have ridiculous notionals due to the difficulty of accurately estimating what proportion of a party's vote in came from which wards/ward splits. Yes but it should be very obvious that losing Bramahll has a huge impact on the Tory vote in that seat.
The Wells notionals which I reckon are accurate still flatter the Tories as a huge numbert of Lib Dem votes would switch to Labour. I'd expect it to be a very big Labour win.
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Post by Foggy on Oct 4, 2018 18:32:44 GMT
The Wells notionals which I reckon are accurate still flatter the Tories as a huge numbert of Lib Dem votes would switch to Labour. I'd expect it to be a very big Labour win.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 4, 2018 20:17:27 GMT
There is no way Stockport West & Cheadle is notionally Tory. That seat is going to vote Labour very comfortably. Remember that notional results are based on the idea that people would have voted the same way under the new boundaries. And since we don't have official breakdowns of General Election results by ward it's inevitable that some seats will have ridiculous notionals due to the difficulty of accurately estimating what proportion of a party's vote in came from which wards/ward splits. For instance York Outer in 2010. Yes, there were a large number of Lib Dem areas that made up the seat, but for it to vote Lib Dem when made out of four rock solid Con seats was a bit of an ask. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on Oct 5, 2018 9:33:05 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 5, 2018 10:05:48 GMT
The Wells notionals which I reckon are accurate still flatter the Tories as a huge numbert of Lib Dem votes would switch to Labour. I'd expect it to be a very big Labour win.
You don't know Wells. Ahem.......this is not the Wells you are looking for  |
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Post by Foggy on Oct 5, 2018 15:42:26 GMT
Ahem.......this is not the Wells you are looking for Whoops! Serves me right for not scrolling up after a few weeks away from the thread, I suppose.  What's worse is that I do check Anthony's blog quite frequently. Perhaps to avoid confusion in future either he should change his name, or the constituency could? *cough*Burnham & Glastonbury*cough* |
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Post by andrew111 on Oct 5, 2018 16:21:49 GMT
Remember that notional results are based on the idea that people would have voted the same way under the new boundaries. And since we don't have official breakdowns of General Election results by ward it's inevitable that some seats will have ridiculous notionals due to the difficulty of accurately estimating what proportion of a party's vote in came from which wards/ward splits. Yes but it should be very obvious that losing Bramahll has a huge impact on the Tory vote in that seat.
The Wells notionals which I reckon are accurate still flatter the Tories as a huge numbert of Lib Dem votes would switch to Labour. I'd expect it to be a very big Labour win.
I don't think that is a given. Firstly the Lib Dems might target the seat in which case they will put on some votes in the Stockport wards, and hang onto a good proportion in Cheadle. Secondly if the Lib Dem vote in the present Cheadle did collapse, close to half of it would go Tory.. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 5, 2018 17:23:57 GMT
Ahem.......this is not the Wells you are looking for Whoops! Serves me right for not scrolling up after a few weeks away from the thread, I suppose. What's worse is that I do check Anthony's blog quite frequently. Perhaps to avoid confusion in future either he should change his name, or the constituency could? *cough*Burnham & Glastonbury*cough*LOL, I thought you were punning! (I'd advise against Anthony Wells changing his name Anthony Burnham & Glastonbury, though.) |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 7, 2018 10:17:41 GMT
On the revised boundaries published in September, has anyone done a review of MPs without a seat to fight/ likely selection battles?
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Post by willoughby on Nov 19, 2018 14:40:04 GMT
Hi All
It seems like a long time since the BCE presented their changes to Government on 5 Sep and there have been a few political developments since then!
It appears to be entirely up to the Government when and if they present the motions in both Houses, and they don't appear to be in a rush presumably because its useful leverage over Brexit-fixated Tory (and DUP) MPs.
Does anyone know when the latest the motion could be tabled and still be implemented in time for a 2022 general election?
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Nov 19, 2018 17:31:05 GMT
Hi All It seems like a long time since the BCE presented their changes to Government on 5 Sep and there have been a few political developments since then! It appears to be entirely up to the Government when and if they present the motions in both Houses, and they don't appear to be in a rush presumably because its useful leverage over Brexit-fixated Tory (and DUP) MPs. Does anyone know when the latest the motion could be tabled and still be implemented in time for a 2022 general election? I would imagine at the most 18 months (so a May 2022 election would see the statutes in place by November 2020 (so another two years yet). |
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Post by greatkingrat on Nov 19, 2018 17:53:33 GMT
I don't think there is a fixed deadline. Theoretically Parliament could pass the proposal the day before dissolution, although there is obviously needs to be a reasonable amount of notice from a practical point of view.
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