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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 1, 2017 16:54:16 GMT
the book is just as bad, no concept that there might actually be rules about how vacancies are contested (thogh it was about right iirc on the powers of the parish) Yes, although I must say when I tried to look up the "rules" most of them seemed to be advisory and it was a bit difficult to find out if there was anything statutory. Seemed to be at the discretion of the local electoral office (run by the principal council), but at the expense of the Parish Council... A Parish Clerk writes: The rules are certainly not advisory. There are clear legal requirements when dealing with a Parish Council vacancy. (Whether every Clerk realises that is another matter ...) LGA 1972 Sections 86-89 RPA 1983 Section 36 (I think) |
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 1, 2017 21:02:55 GMT
So what we're saying is that, when Rowling wrote A Casual Vacancy, she didn't do the research?
Somehow, this doesn't surprise me.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 1, 2017 21:25:49 GMT
If you've read it, I'd say she chanced on a standard text from many years ago and assumed it would still be current.
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 2, 2017 0:23:07 GMT
Yes, although I must say when I tried to look up the "rules" most of them seemed to be advisory and it was a bit difficult to find out if there was anything statutory. Seemed to be at the discretion of the local electoral office (run by the principal council), but at the expense of the Parish Council... A Parish Clerk writes: The rules are certainly not advisory. There are clear legal requirements when dealing with a Parish Council vacancy. (Whether every Clerk realises that is another matter ...) LGA 1972 Sections 86-89 RPA 1983 Section 36 (I think) Gwyn, Actually it appears the rules are here: www.legislation.gov.uk/cy/uksi/2006/3305/article/5/made?view=plainThe LGA 1972 does not appear to say much other than that Parish vacancies can be filled by election or co-option (which is where I had been before and then read what appeared to be "advice" from cpalc) |
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Post by froome on Jan 2, 2017 7:49:29 GMT
yes, but she was brought up in Winterbourne and Tutshill in Gloucestershire - plenty of scope for parish council machinations there I suspect. (you probably know this already of course, so apologies for pointing out the obvious)  No apologies needed! I did not actually know where Rowling came from (I suppose I should have realised she was not actually Scottish!).. And my knowledge of Gloucestershire is almost wholly theoretical! I would imagine that the number of people in Gloucestershire who know where Tutshill is can be counted on the fingers of one hand. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 2, 2017 9:43:22 GMT
No apologies needed! I did not actually know where Rowling came from (I suppose I should have realised she was not actually Scottish!).. And my knowledge of Gloucestershire is almost wholly theoretical! I would imagine that the number of people in Gloucestershire who know where Tutshill is can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Though given it's in the Forest of Dean, that may involve quite a lot of fingers .. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jan 2, 2017 9:52:21 GMT
Tutshill is not in the Forest, though it is close.
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Post by Khunanup on Jan 3, 2017 0:09:23 GMT
I would imagine that the number of people in Gloucestershire who know where Tutshill is can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Though given it's in the Forest of Dean, that may involve quite a lot of fingers .. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 4, 2017 11:03:17 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 4, 2017 12:35:06 GMT
There is a by-election in Cedars ward of Chorleywood parish council (Three Rivers) on 12th January. This is that part of Chorleywood parish which forms part of the Rickmansworth Town district ward.
AFAICT this vacancy is a Conservative seat - this a two member ward which returned two Conservatives in 2014 (Con 828/269 LD 114/111)
This was the only ward in Chorleywood where the Conservatives put up as many candidates as there were seats - they effectively gifted control of the council to the Lib Dems by undernominating in Chorleywood North.
Clearly they feel they still have too many parish councillors in Chorleywood so are declining to contest this by-election leaving a straight fight between Lib Dem and Green
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Post by ColinJ on Jan 4, 2017 16:42:47 GMT
There is a by-election in Cedars ward of Chorleywood parish council (Three Rivers) on 12th January. This is that part of Chorleywood parish which forms part of the Rickmansworth Town district ward. AFAICT this vacancy is a Conservative seat - this a two member ward which returned two Conservatives in 2014 (Con 828/269 LD 114/111) This was the only ward in Chorleywood where the Conservatives put up as many candidates as there were seats - they effectively gifted control of the council to the Lib Dems by undernominating in Chorleywood North. Clearly they feel they still have too many parish councillors in Chorleywood so are declining to contest this by-election leaving a straight fight between Lib Dem and Green Yes, the vacancy is due to the absence of Barbara Dickens (C) from the list of parish councillors, though I haven't yet found out the reason. The other PC vacancy in Three Rivers - Abbots Langley PC, Hunton Bridge and Langleybury ward, caused by the death of Les Proctor (C) - is being filled by co-option. |
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Post by tonygreaves on Jan 4, 2017 21:36:29 GMT
It's a rubbish book, very disappointing in many ways not least her lack of accuracy in how parish councils carry out their business. The biggest hoot is when the vice-chair of the PC takes the ballot papers home to count them, then sends an email to the winner to say he has won.
JKR fans should miss out on this book and go straight to Cormoran Strike - they are pretty good.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jan 4, 2017 22:19:07 GMT
It's a rubbish book, very disappointing in many ways not least her lack of accuracy in how parish councils carry out their business. The biggest hoot is when the vice-chair of the PC takes the ballot papers home to count them, then sends an email to the winner to say he has won. JKR fans should miss out on this book and go straight to Cormoran Strike - they are pretty good. Yeh but the bits of the TV series set in the druggy council estate were partly filmed around my road, so fame at last! |
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 4, 2017 23:01:17 GMT
I was in Ilkley this lunchtime delivering 'blue ink' letters, I think we have done a fair bit of work (I haven't been directly involved so not sure exactly what else we have done) I believe there has only been one leaflet from Labour.
what will happen is anyones guess though
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 5, 2017 23:42:42 GMT
Ilkley south
LD 429
Lab 171
Bingley seat Ukip win
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Post by Foggy on Jan 5, 2017 23:45:28 GMT
Ilkley south LD 429 Lab 171 Quoted just to like the first part of your post.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 6, 2017 0:45:51 GMT
Ilkley south LD 429 Lab 171 Bingley seat Ukip win Quoted just to like the second half. |
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 6, 2017 0:52:24 GMT
ho ho,🙂
I don't know the turnout, but getting 430 people to vote on a freezing January day is some sort of an achievement. I'm surprised there was no conservative candidate and accept this was probably not typical Labour territory
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Post by Terry Weldon on Jan 6, 2017 7:40:48 GMT
A very odd result. No Green or Conservative candidates, even though in the previous election the Conservative topped the poll, and Green and Labour were also elected.
For the LibDems, a remarkable achievement in all respects - they did not even contest the ward, last time around. (There've been several other instances around the country, where LibDems have won wards they did not previously fight).
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Post by Crimson King on Jan 6, 2017 9:25:32 GMT
I'm not surprised at the lack of a green candidate. It is likely that the resigning green was the only activist in the area, stranger that the Cons didnt put up
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