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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 10, 2015 19:49:59 GMT
First off it isn't going to happen because in the highly unlikely event of Trump being the nominee he will lose the general election because Hispanic turnout would go through the roof and would vote massively in Clinton's favour.
However, in a hypothetical world the real question would be how would Trump react. He doesn't really believe the nonsense he is spouting, it is just an act.
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Post by john07 on Dec 10, 2015 19:53:21 GMT
First off it isn't going to happen because in the highly unlikely event of Trump being the nominee he will lose the general election because Hispanic turnout would go through the roof and would vote massively in Clinton's favour. However, in a hypothetical world the real question would be how would Trump react. He doesn't really believe the nonsense he is spouting, it is just an act. Does he believe in anything apart from Donald Trump? I suspect he is telling the Republican voters what he thinks they want to hear.
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Post by Richard Allen on Dec 10, 2015 19:55:52 GMT
First off it isn't going to happen because in the highly unlikely event of Trump being the nominee he will lose the general election because Hispanic turnout would go through the roof and would vote massively in Clinton's favour. However, in a hypothetical world the real question would be how would Trump react. He doesn't really believe the nonsense he is spouting, it is just an act. Does he believe in anything apart from Donald Trump? I suspect he is telling the Republican voters what he thinks they want to hear. Nothing to add.
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Post by mrhell on Dec 10, 2015 22:49:40 GMT
Also a risk that you could see a Teddy Roosevelt type third party move which would hit the Republicans.
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Post by mondialito on Dec 11, 2015 1:04:25 GMT
First off it isn't going to happen because in the highly unlikely event of Trump being the nominee he will lose the general election because Hispanic turnout would go through the roof and would vote massively in Clinton's favour. However, in a hypothetical world the real question would be how would Trump react. He doesn't really believe the nonsense he is spouting, it is just an act. Does he believe in anything apart from Donald Trump? I suspect he is telling the Republican voters what he thinks they want to hear. The disturbing thing is that it seems that he is. It says a lot about how far off the reservation the GOP base have gone since Obama became President (which the prior tacit support of the party establishment) that it is working.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 11, 2015 1:13:52 GMT
Trump v Clinton is the nightmare scenario of two candidates I would not touch with a pole of infinite length. Suspect a third candidate would do well.
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Post by john07 on Dec 11, 2015 1:54:51 GMT
Does he believe in anything apart from Donald Trump? I suspect he is telling the Republican voters what he thinks they want to hear. The disturbing thing is that it seems that he is. It says a lot about how far off the reservation the GOP base have gone since Obama became President (which the prior tacit support of the party establishment) that it is working. It is disturbing on one level but encouraging on another. The Republicans appear to be in the process of painting themselves into a corner by alienating some of the fastest growing sections of the electorate. Any candidate sensible enough to have a chance of beating a decent Democrat in a Presidential election seems doomed to failure in the Republican Primary. Remember that the Republicans have not won a Presidential election since the 1920s without Nixon or a Bush on the ticket. Whatever we think of Bush Senior and Junior, they were capable of reaching parts of the electorate, notably Latinos, that few can.
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Post by johnloony on Dec 11, 2015 3:34:45 GMT
Trump has a less than 1-in-10 chance of getting the nomination. If he gets the nomination, he has a less than 1-in-10 chance of winning the Presidency. If he becomes President, he has a less than 1-in-10 chance of enacting any of the controversial stuff he is spouting out - because much of it would be unconstitutional, or wouldn't get the necessary Congressional support, or because he would find excuses to change his mind (because he doesn't actually believe it himself). All of which means that he has a very-much-less-than 1-in-1000 chance of doing anything seriously damaging. Unless you count damaging the integrity of the political process. Meanwhile, four months ago I came across this graphic, which - on its own - is enough of a reason why Trump will never be POTUS:
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Dec 11, 2015 10:15:09 GMT
First off it isn't going to happen because in the highly unlikely event of Trump being the nominee he will lose the general election because Hispanic turnout would go through the roof and would vote massively in Clinton's favour. However, in a hypothetical world the real question would be how would Trump react. He doesn't really believe the nonsense he is spouting, it is just an act. But if he's willing to say things he knows to be ridiculous, he's likely willing to do those things. Particularly since not doing those things would lose him his existing support, without making him appear respectable in the eyes of his opponents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 20:51:47 GMT
Back in December when I created the above poll, 83% of us said Trump wouldn't become president. Now that his nomination as GOP candidate appears to be more likely, I've re-opened the poll.
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Post by iainbhx on Mar 5, 2016 21:11:27 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 6, 2016 0:21:08 GMT
How would liberal America react? There's the easy bit: we'll get threats to move to Canada, Jesusland maps, and an even more useless Democratic nominee four years down the line. I think Miley Cyrus has already threatened to leave if this happens !
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Post by carlton43 on Mar 6, 2016 9:59:57 GMT
There's the easy bit: we'll get threats to move to Canada, Jesusland maps, and an even more useless Democratic nominee four years down the line. I think Miley Cyrus has already threatened to leave if this happens ! Thus markedly improving both countries.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 6, 2016 11:20:08 GMT
I think Miley Cyrus has already threatened to leave if this happens ! Thus markedly improving both countries. Be careful what you wish for Carlton! I'm not sure she specifically said she was going to Canada - she might settle here! The Daily Mail would be delighted, she provides them with enough clickbait already...
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 6, 2016 12:00:53 GMT
There's the easy bit: we'll get threats to move to Canada, Jesusland maps, and an even more useless Democratic nominee four years down the line. I think Miley Cyrus has already threatened to leave if this happens ! A boost for The Donald, if anything
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 14:11:26 GMT
Back in December when I created the above poll, 83% of us said Trump wouldn't become president. Now that his nomination as GOP candidate appears to be more likely, I've re-opened the poll. 17 hours after I posted that and it's now 68%.
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 6, 2016 17:51:52 GMT
As for what would happen in the exceedingly unlikely circumstance that Trump becomes president, well you've all seen/read The Dead Zone right..?
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Post by johnloony on Mar 7, 2016 13:10:47 GMT
As for what would happen in the exceedingly unlikely circumstance that Trump becomes president, well you've all seen/read The Dead Zone right..? Yes, but even Trump isn't that bad.
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 7, 2016 15:01:24 GMT
As for what would happen in the exceedingly unlikely circumstance that Trump becomes president, well you've all seen/read The Dead Zone right..? Yes, but even Trump isn't that bad. I wish I had that same certainty...
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Post by Guest on Mar 7, 2016 21:56:01 GMT
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