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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 10, 2015 12:56:00 GMT
Not everyone agreed when Bombay was renamed Mumbai, and quite a lot of local people still prefer and use Bombay. It's not unusual to find both names used interchangably in the same piece of writing. When I had a number of colleagues in Madras, they would often correct those who said Chennai. |
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Post by jamie on Nov 10, 2015 16:00:52 GMT
USDP are the military their leader has lost his seat and conceded the fact. Others mostly tribal minority parties. But it is useful to separate out the seats they won 'legitimately' and those that were automatically won. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 11, 2015 9:41:24 GMT
hate to disturb this important stuff, but any actual results yet? Currently lower house (88 seats announced, 110 reserved for military out of 440): NLD 78 USDP 5 Others 5 Upper house (33 seats announced, 56 reserved for military out of 224): NLD 29 USDP 2 Others 2 Ever so slightly one-sided so far... House of representatives (lower house) with 232 out of 330 seats announced (an extra 110 reserved for military) is now: NLD 211 USDP 12 Others 9 The pattern is similar in elections to State and regional assemblies with seat count currently: NLD 234 USDP 26 Others 14 (220 reserved for military) |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 11, 2015 10:52:52 GMT
This is taking a while, isn't it? Though given the actual results so far it doesn't seem *that* sinister......
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Post by neilm on Nov 11, 2015 12:44:49 GMT
Maybe they're doing it to have resources in place to manage the inevitable protests when it transpires that the NLD don't have the two thirds they need? Also, there is a scenario where Than Sein can stay on as president with less than 20% of the parliamentary seats for the USDP and they may be scrambling to rig a few seats to make sure that happens.
How are they counting? Are boxes being moved to a central location? Depending on how they're doing it that could take ages given the terrible infrastructure and size of the country.
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Post by Khunanup on Nov 11, 2015 13:20:09 GMT
Maybe they're doing it to have resources in place to manage the inevitable protests when it transpires that the NLD don't have the two thirds they need? Also, there is a scenario where Than Sein can stay on as president with less than 20% of the parliamentary seats for the USDP and they may be scrambling to rig a few seats to make sure that happens. How are they counting? Are boxes being moved to a central location? Depending on how they're doing it that could take ages given the terrible infrastructure and size of the country. No, on the news the other night they said the boxes were being counted locally. |
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Post by Crimson King on Nov 11, 2015 16:50:06 GMT
by my reckoning NLD only need 9 more of the remaining 98 seats to have a majority. Given the results so far I suspect they might just make it
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 11, 2015 17:06:51 GMT
by my reckoning NLD only need 9 more of the remaining 98 seats to have a majority. Given the results so far I suspect they might just make it Figures seemed to have been revised since I posted (perhaps some seats were put down in the wrong house initially): Upper house: NLD 77 USDP 4 Others 2 (military 56) (85 to be declared) Lower house: NLD 179 USPD 17 Others 37 Cancelled 7 (military 110) (to be decalred 107) Regional assemblies: NLD 280 USDP 30 Others 18 Cancelled 14 (Military 220) (To be declared 318) So they need 36 out of the remaining 85 in the upper house and 42 of the remaining 107 in the lower) |
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Post by John Chanin on Nov 11, 2015 17:30:09 GMT
I wonder whether later declarations may not be concentrated in the remoter regions, mainly occupied by ethnic minorities who are much less likely to vote either for the NLD or for USDP. The position may therefore not be quite as strong as it looks now.
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 12, 2015 11:07:23 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Nov 12, 2015 12:48:25 GMT
The position of the military is untenable. Why? They have the guns! |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 12, 2015 15:33:42 GMT
Take into account the cancelled elections the NLD have just reached an absolute majority in the lower house needed to pass bills there. They remain 2 seats short of an absolute majority across both houses to elect the president. They need 3 in the upper house for an absolute majority there:
Lower House:
NLD 217
USDP 28
Others 17
Military 110
Cancelled 7
To be declared 49
Upper House:
NLD 110
USDP 12
Others 11
Military 56
To be declared 35
Regional Assemblies:
NLD 382
USDP 54
Others 58
Cancelled 14
Military 220
To be declared 136
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Post by Dan on Nov 13, 2015 9:42:28 GMT
Latest results:
Upper House
National League for Democracy - 126 seats
Union Solidarity & Development - 12 seats (+56 military seats)
Arakan National - 7 seats
Shan Nationalities League for Democracy - 3 seats
Zomi Congress for Democracy - 2 seats
Mon National - 1 seat
Ta'Arng National - 1 seat
Independent - 1 seat
undeclared - 14 seats
Lower House
National League for Democracy - 238 seats
Union Solidarity & Development - 28 seats (+110 military seats)
Shan Nationalities League for Democracy - 12 seats
Arakan National - 7 seats
Pa-O National Organisation - 3 seats
Ta'Arng National - 3 seats
Zomi Congress for Democracy - 2 seats
Kachin State Democracy - 1 seat
Kokang Democracy & Unity - 1 seat
Lisu National Development - 1 seat
Wa Democratic - 1 seat
Independent - 1 seat
undeclared - 25
cancelled due to insurgence - 7 seats
So in the Upper House, NLD has 126 seats against 97 for everyone else (declared and undeclared). In the Lower House, NLD has 238 seats against 202 for everyone else (declare and undeclared).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 20:18:26 GMT
Well done democracy, for the first time there are no Muslims in the Parliament as Nobel Peace Prize winner creates a democracy that makes the South African Apartheid regime look like a model of peaceful coexistence and multi cultural harmony. Of course as they have no oil the Burmese will be allowed to carry on with their genocide without the UK sending over their our 6 planes to drop bombs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 1:17:44 GMT
Well done democracy, for the first time there are no Muslims in the Parliament as Nobel Peace Prize winner creates a democracy that makes the South African Apartheid regime look like a model of peaceful coexistence and multi cultural harmony. Of course as they have no oil the Burmese will be allowed to carry on with their genocide without the UK sending over their our 6 planes to drop bombs. First time since the 1962 coup. Post-independence Burma was a (flawed) democracy most of the time. :Very hyperbolic post. In SA a minority of originally 16-22% (ever dwindling in the era) dominated a majority and pursuing systematic discrimination of the majority. The Burmese government oppress and try to expel an unpopular ethnic minority (which is bad), but represents the Buddhist majority and NDP will pursue a process of reconciliation with the big Buddhist and Christian ethnic minorities in the border regions in the north and east + in the south, which is more important for the future stability and progress of the country than what happens to the Rohingya. Burma is not a fully democratic country and Buddhist Nationalism and the continued power of the military are severe problems, but it isn't apartheid South Africa. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 1:23:03 GMT
I would feel safer in South Africa, we are on the verge of genocide,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 1:40:40 GMT
I would feel safer in South Africa, we are on the verge of genocide, Makes sense if you are white.  Ethnic cleansing (forcing them across the border) is much more likely than genocide. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 16:14:06 GMT
I would feel safer in South Africa, we are on the verge of genocide, Makes sense if you are white. Ethnic cleansing (forcing them across the border) is much more likely than genocide. Apparently all Muslims are having Indian stamped on their passports, unless they are willing to pay a bribe. |
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