carlton43
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 8, 2015 12:34:21 GMT
On the subject of Bruce Campbell let this thread about Oldham politics not end without someone mentioning that said former Member for Oldham West's later career as a judge ended in farcical disgrace when he was convicted of smuggling. Don't put Smuggling down, the Wemyss economy is 30% Black. Of all crimes it is the one with the lowest opprobrium amongst the general public, except for elements of drug smuggling. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 12:49:33 GMT
Any sign of a petition to the Electoral court?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 8, 2015 17:16:52 GMT
Well, we shall see. I think there are a few people who now view Jarvis less favourably, for sure. The point is that it will be raised as an issue - and linked with Iraq and other aspects of liberal interventionism, which most party members are clearly against.Iraq undoubtedly made an impact in David Miliband losing. Can we assume that the status of the Spanish Civil War volunteers within the labour movement has declined? |
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Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 8, 2015 17:24:19 GMT
I'm not sure if you could call that liberal interventionism...
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Post by mboy on Dec 8, 2015 17:29:36 GMT
I don't see a great deal politically between mboy and myself. Oi! Watch it!  Tbh that's mostly because lots of the debate in recent months here has been on liberty issues, and not on, say, land taxation or constitutional reform... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 8, 2015 17:30:45 GMT
I'm not sure if you could call that liberal interventionism... Some at least were liberal interventionists, but sadly found out that not everybody fancied intervening for liberal or democratic values. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Dec 8, 2015 18:24:50 GMT
Well, we shall see. I think there are a few people who now view Jarvis less favourably, for sure. The point is that it will be raised as an issue - and linked with Iraq and other aspects of liberal interventionism, which most party members are clearly against. Iraq undoubtedly made an impact in David Miliband losing. Because by happenstance Ed Miliband wasn't elected as an MP until 2005 (i.e. post-Iraq). Is there any doubt that Ed Miliband would have voted for the invasion of Iraq if he had been an MP in 2003? |
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 8, 2015 22:10:37 GMT
The point is that it will be raised as an issue - and linked with Iraq and other aspects of liberal interventionism, which most party members are clearly against. Iraq undoubtedly made an impact in David Miliband losing. Because by happenstance Ed Miliband wasn't elected as an MP until 2005 (i.e. post-Iraq). Is there any doubt that Ed Miliband would have voted for the invasion of Iraq if he had been an MP in 2003? Ed would have voted against, and no-one has ever suggested any different - he was teaching at Harvard at the time, but was known to be against. Indeed, David M knew this - remember him trying to stop Harriet Harman from clapping when Ed said that it has been a mistake in his acceptance speech? In general, he is not enthusiastic for liberal interventionism - he has expressed that view many times and other than Libya his votes indicate his stance. And he has strongly criticised the lack of post-invasion support offered to Libya by the Tories. |
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Post by right on Dec 13, 2015 7:30:37 GMT
Does anyone know what the turnout was by ward?
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Post by Andrew_S on Dec 13, 2015 8:56:13 GMT
Does anyone know what the turnout was by ward? I sent an email to the council but they haven't replied yet. |
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Post by A Brown on Dec 13, 2015 10:59:10 GMT
Does anyone know what the turnout was by ward? I sent an email to the council but they haven't replied yet. Would be nice to know exactly although we can probably safely assume that it was highest in Werneth and Coldhurst at around 50% and lowest in Hollinwood say below 30%. |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 13, 2015 11:32:21 GMT
And based on the result it was a fairly safe bet Labour "carried" every ward, though it would be interesting to know where UKIP ran them closest (Chadderton, probably?)
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Post by A Brown on Dec 13, 2015 11:51:53 GMT
And based on the result it was a fairly safe bet Labour "carried" every ward, though it would be interesting to know where UKIP ran them closest (Chadderton, probably?) Almost certainly Chadderton South which they almost won in 2014 and 2015. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 16, 2016 18:31:48 GMT
Update on UKIP claims of electoral fraud  |
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Post by greenchristian on Jan 16, 2016 18:59:24 GMT
"the UKIP Party"?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 9:33:37 GMT
Is there a date for when each party declares what they spent on the by election?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 18, 2016 11:09:36 GMT
Is there a date for when each party declares what they spent on the by election? Yes - it was Saturday 9 January, 35 calendar days after the election result was declared. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 18, 2016 11:15:30 GMT
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Post by peterl on Jan 18, 2016 12:27:12 GMT
Conservative Party £39,432.24
Church of the Militant Elvis £39.45
English Democrats Party £2,775.19
Green Party £0.00
Labour Party £97,084.65
Liberal Democrats £94,540.26
Official Monster Raving Loony Party £0.00
Pirate Party UK £1,161.55
UK Independence Party (UK I P) £43,855.06
British National Party £5,200.00
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Jan 18, 2016 12:37:53 GMT
Conservative Party £39,432.24 Church of the Militant Elvis £39.45 English Democrats Party £2,775.19 Green Party £0.00 Labour Party £97,084.65 Liberal Democrats £94,540.26 Official Monster Raving Loony Party £0.00 Pirate Party UK £1,161.55 UK Independence Party (UK I P) £43,855.06 British National Party £5,200.00 That's Oldham East and Saddleworth, 2011. |
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Tbh that's mostly because lots of the debate in recent months here has been on liberty issues, and not on, say, land taxation or constitutional reform...
