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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 0:43:37 GMT
Its a pretty uninspiring choice all told, but Macri is probably worse. In any case, he probably won't manage a full term. The Peronists al;ways make it back in the end. Seriously: how is Macri worse? |
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 23, 2015 0:49:46 GMT
Its a pretty uninspiring choice all told, but Macri is probably worse. In any case, he probably won't manage a full term. The Peronists al;ways make it back in the end. Seriously: how is Macri worse? Argentina has really good laws on equality and diversity - for both lesbian and gay, and transgender people. In fact it is regarded as having some of the most forward looking laws on transgender people in the world Macri has not tried to reverse these in his position - but is not regarded as sympathetic in comparison to the previous president. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 2:34:59 GMT
Seriously: how is Macri worse? Argentina has really good laws on equality and diversity - for both lesbian and gay, and transgender people. In fact it is regarded as having some of the most forward looking laws on transgender people in the world Macri has not tried to reverse these in his position - but is not regarded as sympathetic in comparison to the previous president. Not a big enough deal. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 23, 2015 6:31:50 GMT
Macri isn't brilliant, but he has much less of a whiff of sulphur compared to Kirchner (both). And hopefully he will call off the activities of the Kirchnerista football thugs acting as Cristina's militia.
Speaking of which,I wonder if certain murder investigations will become clearer soon.
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 23, 2015 10:15:59 GMT
Worth noting perhaps that the final margin of victory looks to be about 3% - closer than the polls (and indeed exit poll) predicted.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 23, 2015 10:52:08 GMT
Worth noting perhaps that the final margin of victory looks to be about 3% - closer than the polls (and indeed exit poll) predicted. But mightily impressive given the assumption that Scioli wouldn't need a second round. |
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Post by bolbridge on Nov 23, 2015 11:40:37 GMT
Bye felicia
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Post by Merseymike on Nov 23, 2015 18:50:42 GMT
Argentina has really good laws on equality and diversity - for both lesbian and gay, and transgender people. In fact it is regarded as having some of the most forward looking laws on transgender people in the world Macri has not tried to reverse these in his position - but is not regarded as sympathetic in comparison to the previous president. Not a big enough deal. And also Macri is a neo-liberal, so I would have voted against him, though without great enthusiasm for the alternative But as I said earlier, neoliberals have always gone down like a lead balloon in Argentina so I don't think he will complete his term |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 24, 2015 10:40:07 GMT
Some strange news today. It appears that Christina was effectively imposing corn laws, and that some farmers were only allowed to plant a third of their land. Very curious. Macri has apparently said he will get rid of this, and reckons Argentina will end up as the world's third-largest exporter of wheat.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 24, 2015 10:41:20 GMT
And also Macri is a neo-liberal, so I would have voted against him, though without great enthusiasm for the alternative I think it's fair to say that any party with its own effective militia raises doubts! |
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Post by maxque on Nov 24, 2015 12:28:13 GMT
And also Macri is a neo-liberal, so I would have voted against him, though without great enthusiasm for the alternative I think it's fair to say that any party with its own effective militia raises doubts! Didn't De Gaulle party in France had its own militia? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 24, 2015 14:40:00 GMT
I think it's fair to say that any party with its own effective militia raises doubts! Didn't De Gaulle party in France had its own militia? I'm not aware of anything surviving the end of the war but I am happy to be corrected. Some of De Gaulle's actions immediately after the war were somewhat anti-democratic. |
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Post by john07 on Nov 24, 2015 16:02:31 GMT
I think it's fair to say that any party with its own effective militia raises doubts! Didn't De Gaulle party in France had its own militia? Never heard that one. It wouldn't have been the smartest move I suspect that if the Gaullists had retained their faction of the Resistance, the Communists would have done likewise and been far larger and better organised. The only militia I am aware of in postwar metropolitan France was the OAS who may have been pro-De Gaulle at one stage but ended up trying to assassinate him. |
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Post by maxque on Nov 24, 2015 20:01:33 GMT
Didn't De Gaulle party in France had its own militia? I'm not aware of anything surviving the end of the war but I am happy to be corrected. Some of De Gaulle's actions immediately after the war were somewhat anti-democratic. The Service d'Action Civique (Civic Action Service) was that, sort of, though it was independent of the party and answering directly to De Gaulle until his death. Officially, it was the service of order of the UNR/UDR/RPR, but, in fact, it was more diversified in its activities and the opposition was calling it a parallel police. No matter the name you use for them, it's gruesome. They were dissolved by Mitterrand in 1982 after they killed their Marseilles leader and his family for being too close to the left. That's quite troubling. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_d'Action_Civique |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Nov 24, 2015 20:11:38 GMT
I'm not aware of anything surviving the end of the war but I am happy to be corrected. Some of De Gaulle's actions immediately after the war were somewhat anti-democratic. The Service d'Action Civique (Civic Action Service) was that, sort of, though it was independent of the party and answering directly to De Gaulle until his death. Officially, it was the service of order of the UNR/UDR/RPR, but, in fact, it was more diversified in its activities and the opposition was calling it a parallel police. No matter the name you use for them, it's gruesome. They were dissolved by Mitterrand in 1982 after they killed their Marseilles leader and his family for being too close to the left. That's quite troubling. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_d'Action_Civique I was unaware of that, thank you for the tip. I Will have a look. Of course old Mitterrand wasn't too detached from a few extrajudicial killings... |
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