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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2015 9:01:56 GMT
Such an idiotic post could only be written by someone who has no knowledge of real politics in Tower Hamlets. The Conservative vote comes almost entirely from the Isle of Dogs and Wapping, and by now it knows that the way Mayoral elections work is to vote Conservative first pref and then make sure your second pref is for John Biggs.
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Post by pl on Jun 12, 2015 9:07:18 GMT
Such an idiotic post could only be written by someone who has no knowledge of real politics in Tower Hamlets. The Conservative vote comes almost entirely from the Isle of Dogs and Wapping, and by now it knows that the way Mayoral elections work is to vote Conservative first pref and then make sure your second pref is for John Biggs. Sorry, David, I must have missed you at the Count.... The lack of understanding on the doorstep about how SV works is quite staggering.... |
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Post by Crimson King on Jun 12, 2015 9:12:41 GMT
by my reckoning about 7000 votes were lost because they gave their second preferences(if any) to someone other than the top two candidates. Obviously irellevant in terms of the result, but it does piss me off. Perhaps they should appear as rejected papers under the heading 'for being too stupid to realise that there are really only two candidates and we are only pretending to let everybody else play in the first round'
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Post by pl on Jun 12, 2015 9:18:46 GMT
by my reckoning about 7000 votes were lost because they gave their second preferences(if any) to someone other than the top two candidates. Obviously irellevant in terms of the result, but it does piss me off. Perhaps they should appear as rejected papers under the heading 'for being too stupid to realise that there are really only two candidates and we are only pretending to let everybody else play in the first round' I'm yet to see a proper attempt by any party to appeal for second preference votes.... Would be lambasted as a sign of weakness I suppose.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 9:21:48 GMT
Excellent result and not a bad result for Peter Golds either. I would have been sorely tempted to vote for Briggs just as a defense of democracy. Biggs got lucky, really lucky, especially on the first prefs. To be less than 1,500 first preferences ahead after everything that has gone on is a weak performance. He ran a lacklustre campaign, with relatively poor literature. I'm not going to give advice to Biggs here, but his inability to squeeze other parties further on a low poll should worry him. The Conservative share of the vote actually inched UP from 2014. Big surprise of the day for me was just the level of utter and total apathy is some parts of the Borough. For all the media attention, interest was surprisingly low. A 37% turnout, a win on first prefs (& getting 90% of 2nd prefs) in a polarised & contraversial election, I'll settle for that as a good result. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Jun 12, 2015 10:01:45 GMT
Biggs got lucky, really lucky, especially on the first prefs. To be less than 1,500 first preferences ahead after everything that has gone on is a weak performance. He ran a lacklustre campaign, with relatively poor literature. I'm not going to give advice to Biggs here, but his inability to squeeze other parties further on a low poll should worry him. The Conservative share of the vote actually inched UP from 2014. Big surprise of the day for me was just the level of utter and total apathy is some parts of the Borough. For all the media attention, interest was surprisingly low. A 37% turnout, a win on first prefs (& getting 90% of 2nd prefs) in a polarised & contraversial election, I'll settle for that as a good result. It's good that Labour won this election IMO, but a bit disappointing that Rabina Khan was able to obtain as much as 45% of the vote in the second round. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 12, 2015 10:06:45 GMT
Compare this result with the original Mayoral election in 2010, though.
Now that the Rahmanites have lost their powers of patronage, will they decline further or will they regroup to form a serious opposition to Labour?
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 12, 2015 10:07:34 GMT
Excellent result and not a bad result for Peter Golds either. I would have been sorely tempted to vote for Briggs just as a defense of democracy. Agreed. Biggs would have got my second preference here. Pleased overall with the result. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 10:26:23 GMT
Now that the Rahmanites have lost their powers of patronage, will they decline further or will they regroup to form a serious opposition to Labour? I would have thought that having lost the power of patronage (particularly the way Rahman overturned officer recommendations on local grants) they should decline. |
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 12, 2015 10:32:07 GMT
Now that the Rahmanites have lost their powers of patronage, will they decline further or will they regroup to form a serious opposition to Labour? I would have thought that having lost the power of patronage (particularly the way Rahman overturned officer recommendations on local grants) they should decline. Hopefully they will decline. However unless another party can grow further in the borough, that probably won't happen. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jun 12, 2015 10:34:43 GMT
Given that the consensus seems to be that Rahman was reasonably secular but opportunistic, I could see them coming back in a more explicitly Islamist guise.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 12, 2015 10:51:17 GMT
Some of the THF supporters were with them mainly because they were in power. Now that power has shifted, they may well start to whisper in the ears of Labour councillors about coming across.
The TH Labour Party knows perfectly well that it will have to be discriminating about who it accepts.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 12, 2015 13:19:21 GMT
Some of the THF supporters were with them mainly because they were in power. Now that power has shifted, they may well start to whisper in the ears of Labour councillors about coming across. The TH Labour Party knows perfectly well that it will have to be discriminating about who it accepts. and the TH Tory party judging by where people went when Respect foundered.... |
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Post by mrhell on Jun 14, 2015 1:12:51 GMT
Now that the Rahmanites have lost their powers of patronage, will they decline further or will they regroup to form a serious opposition to Labour? Hopefully, some of these will be kicked out due to corruption. |
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