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[ibfc]

Jul 22, 2022 9:32:33 GMT rcronald said:

Real?

Yes 😂😂

[The Bishop]

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

[Adam in Stroud]

Jul 22, 2022 10:18:46 GMT The Bishop said:

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

There is also the case of the American general in the Civil War whose last words were allegedly "They couldn't hit a thing at this dist...."

[minionofmidas]

www.punjabnewsexpress.com/punjab/news/nobody-stopped-punjab-cm-bhagwant-mann-from-drinking-sewage-polluted-water-of-kali-bein-at-sultanpurlodhi-175065

I'm a little mystified. Why would a "noted environmentalist" and a recently elected CM of a new party that's never been in office before do that? This isn't John Gummer eating British beef (not that anybody would have detected a change in him if he'd gotten MCD). No one can blame Mann for the pollution.

[John Chanin]

Jul 22, 2022 9:32:33 GMT rcronald said:

Religion rots the mind……and in this case the body too.

[maxque]

Jul 22, 2022 11:02:31 GMT minionofmidas said:

www.punjabnewsexpress.com/punjab/news/nobody-stopped-punjab-cm-bhagwant-mann-from-drinking-sewage-polluted-water-of-kali-bein-at-sultanpurlodhi-175065

I'm a little mystified. Why would a "noted environmentalist" and a recently elected CM of a new party that's never been in office before do that? This isn't John Gummer eating British beef (not that anybody would have detected a change in him if he'd gotten MCD). No one can blame Mann for the pollution.

Because his advisers are probably also religious cranks who believe an holy river cannot be polluted?

[AdminSTB]

Jul 22, 2022 10:18:46 GMT The Bishop said:

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

I know the inventor Thomas Midgeley Jr. dipped his hand into some tetraethyl-lead during a press conference (to demonstrate it safe) and was hospitalised for it, though that didn't kill him mind you*.




_{* That "honour" would go to another one of his inventions. Later on he contract polio and was paralysed, so he developed a series of slings and pulleys to allow him to move around in his bed, then one day there was a mishap in which he got caught up in the pulleys and he died of asphyxiation. So ended the single deadliest inventor in human history, the man who gave us leaded petrol and freon, meeting his demise like so many millions of other people: strangled to death by one of his inventions...}

[finsobruce]

Jul 22, 2022 10:21:05 GMT Adam in Stroud said:

Jul 22, 2022 10:18:46 GMT The Bishop said:

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

There is also the case of the American general in the Civil War whose last words were allegedly "They couldn't hit a thing at this dist...."

Major General John Sedgwick at the battle of Spotsylvania. He apparently did finish the sentence.

Also present at the battle was Major General Ambrose Burnside, who gave his name to sideburns. He is of political interest as he switched from being a Democrat to being a Republican because of the war and went on to become Senator for and Governor Rhode Island.

Sedgwick's military reputation was the higher of the two.

[J.G.Harston]

Jul 22, 2022 16:56:11 GMT AdminSTB said:

Jul 22, 2022 10:18:46 GMT The Bishop said:

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

I know the inventor Thomas Midgeley Jr. dipped his hand into some tetraethyl-lead during a press conference (to demonstrate it safe) and was hospitalised for it, though that didn't kill him mind you*.

_{* That "honour" would go to another one of his inventions. Later on he contract polio and was paralysed, so he developed a series of slings and pulleys to allow him to move around in his bed, then one day there was a mishap in which he got caught up in the pulleys and he died of asphyxiation. So ended the single deadliest inventor in human history, the man who gave us leaded petrol and freon, meeting his demise like so many millions of other people: strangled to death by one of his inventions...}

To attone for the poison of inventing tetraethyl-lead, he went on to invent.... chloroflurocarbons.

[finsobruce]

Jul 22, 2022 18:46:33 GMT J.G.Harston said:

Jul 22, 2022 16:56:11 GMT AdminSTB said:

I know the inventor Thomas Midgeley Jr. dipped his hand into some tetraethyl-lead during a press conference (to demonstrate it safe) and was hospitalised for it, though that didn't kill him mind you*.

_{* That "honour" would go to another one of his inventions. Later on he contract polio and was paralysed, so he developed a series of slings and pulleys to allow him to move around in his bed, then one day there was a mishap in which he got caught up in the pulleys and he died of asphyxiation. So ended the single deadliest inventor in human history, the man who gave us leaded petrol and freon, meeting his demise like so many millions of other people: strangled to death by one of his inventions...}

To attone for the poison of inventing tetraethyl-lead, he went on to invent.... chloroflurocarbons.

There's doubling down, and then there's doubling down...

[finsobruce]

Jul 22, 2022 10:18:46 GMT The Bishop said:

There is historic precedent for this sort of thing - at least one prominent historical figure (unfortunately I forget who) actually died as a result.

I seem to remember that too, but can't track it down. My mind is prompting me to Italy??

[Sibboleth]

Jul 22, 2022 18:48:44 GMT finsobruce said:

Jul 22, 2022 18:46:33 GMT J.G.Harston said:

To attone for the poison of inventing tetraethyl-lead, he went on to invent.... chloroflurocarbons.

There's doubling down, and then there's doubling down...

Always thought that there was more than a small element of a Terry Pratchett character to the man.

[CatholicLeft]

Jul 21, 2022 22:49:37 GMT Adam in Stroud said:

Jul 21, 2022 22:44:06 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

Italy still hasn't had a president born in the era of the republic. The first prime minister to fit that bill was d'Alema in 1998, so quite a contrast.

Blimey, that is quite a factoid.

After the collapse of the big parties in Italy, the comfort of knowng the older politicians, who had worked with the many party leaders now in new factions, guaranteed the octogenarian Head of State. The Italian Republic craves a king.

[CatholicLeft]

Jul 22, 2022 11:02:31 GMT minionofmidas said:

www.punjabnewsexpress.com/punjab/news/nobody-stopped-punjab-cm-bhagwant-mann-from-drinking-sewage-polluted-water-of-kali-bein-at-sultanpurlodhi-175065

I'm a little mystified. Why would a "noted environmentalist" and a recently elected CM of a new party that's never been in office before do that? This isn't John Gummer eating British beef (not that anybody would have detected a change in him if he'd gotten MCD). No one can blame Mann for the pollution.

John Gummer didn't just eat the beef himself, he force-fed his daughter Cordelia. One of the most uncomfortable political moments of the early 1990s

[rcronald]

Jul 22, 2022 20:51:32 GMT CatholicLeft said:

Jul 22, 2022 11:02:31 GMT minionofmidas said:

www.punjabnewsexpress.com/punjab/news/nobody-stopped-punjab-cm-bhagwant-mann-from-drinking-sewage-polluted-water-of-kali-bein-at-sultanpurlodhi-175065

I'm a little mystified. Why would a "noted environmentalist" and a recently elected CM of a new party that's never been in office before do that? This isn't John Gummer eating British beef (not that anybody would have detected a change in him if he'd gotten MCD). No one can blame Mann for the pollution.

John Gummer didn't just eat the beef himself, he force-fed his daughter Cordelia. One of the most uncomfortable political moments of the early 1990s

She flat out refused if I remember correctly.

[minionofmidas]

Jul 23, 2022 6:52:55 GMT rcronald said:

Jul 22, 2022 20:51:32 GMT CatholicLeft said:

John Gummer didn't just eat the beef himself, he force-fed his daughter Cordelia. One of the most uncomfortable political moments of the early 1990s

She flat out refused if I remember correctly.

She tried. Unsuccessfully:

(Also, the forcefeeding perv is old enough to be her granddad. I didn't even know this part of the story.)

[Georg Ebner]

A record Modi-landSlide was polled by Matrize, coming up even with proJections per state:

mediabrief.com/india-tvs-desh-ki-awaaz-opinion-poll/

[ibfc]

They are also doing state assembly polls. A lot are captured in this thread. A few seem dubious especially Chattisgarh.

[Georg Ebner]

Jul 30, 2022 18:02:42 GMT ibfc said:

They are also doing state assembly polls. A lot are captured in this thread. A few seem dubious especially Chattisgarh.

Wow - that's really a goldMine!
Do You rate WB as realistic? In their LS-proJection they had NDA losing ground.
INC in Punjab would also be something.
Maharastra being very interesting, of course: The deFection of SHS-parts was obviously (also) a reAction to NCP's rise. As ignorant foreigner i had expected the Thackeray-SHS to have the upperHand. 

[Georg Ebner]

Few more things to that LS-poll:


Per state (plus changes compared to 2019, thankfully taken from someone else):